Cessna 310 Down in Compton, Calif.

Thankfully, there was no fire.



http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3190581.story
5 hurt as small plane crashes in Compton
By Richard Winton and Carla Hall, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
April 13, 2008
Five people were injured, four critically, Saturday afternoon when
a twin-engine aircraft crashed nose first into a Compton house and
sliced into the one next door with one of its wings, authorities
said.

The Cessna 310 crashed just before 4 p.m. in the 500 block of West
Cypress Street, said Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the Federal
Aviation Administration.

The plane, which was registered in Nevada, was heading from San
Diego to Hawthorne Municipal Airport, Gregor said. It was about a
mile and a half away from Compton/Woodley Airport, a general
aviation field, but he said it was unclear whether the pilot was
trying to make an emergency landing.

Compton Deputy Fire Chief Marcel Melanson said two of the injured
were the plane's occupants and three were on the ground. ...

He and two other people tried to open the door of the badly
damaged house but couldn't get it to budge. They helped the young
woman out a window, and when she said her mother was inside, they
clambered through the window themselves to search for her.

"I saw the pilot, so we got him out," Wyatt said.

Then he spotted one of the residents of the house moving under the
rubble. Several people struggled to move that man out of the home
through a sliding-glass door.

"You could smell the fumes," said Wyatt, his jeans stained with
the blood of the injured whom he helped. ...

On Apr 13, 3:52 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
Thankfully, there was no fire.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3190581.story
5 hurt as small plane crashes in Compton
By Richard Winton and Carla Hall, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
April 13, 2008
Five people were injured, four critically, Saturday afternoon when
a twin-engine aircraft crashed nose first into a Compton house and
sliced into the one next door with one of its wings, authorities
said.

The Cessna 310 crashed just before 4 p.m. in the 500 block of West
Cypress Street, said Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the Federal
Aviation Administration.

The plane, which was registered in Nevada, was heading from San
Diego to Hawthorne Municipal Airport, Gregor said. It was about a
mile and a half away from Compton/Woodley Airport, a general
aviation field, but he said it was unclear whether the pilot was
trying to make an emergency landing.

Compton Deputy Fire Chief Marcel Melanson said two of the injured
were the plane's occupants and three were on the ground. ...

He and two other people tried to open the door of the badly
damaged house but couldn't get it to budge. They helped the young
woman out a window, and when she said her mother was inside, they
clambered through the window themselves to search for her.

"I saw the pilot, so we got him out," Wyatt said.

Then he spotted one of the residents of the house moving under the
rubble. Several people struggled to move that man out of the home
through a sliding-glass door.

"You could smell the fumes," said Wyatt, his jeans stained with
the blood of the injured whom he helped. ...

So what happens now? Does the homeowner sue
the pilot or the plane owner? Can they?
Remember that old homeowner insurance rider
you could get to cover an airplane falling on your
house? Who pays for that mess?
Ken

On Apr 13, 6:04 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On Apr 13, 3:52 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:



Thankfully, there was no fire.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3190581.story
5 hurt as small plane crashes in Compton
By Richard Winton and Carla Hall, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
April 13, 2008
Five people were injured, four critically, Saturday afternoon when
a twin-engine aircraft crashed nose first into a Compton house and
sliced into the one next door with one of its wings, authorities
said.

The Cessna 310 crashed just before 4 p.m. in the 500 block of West
Cypress Street, said Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the Federal
Aviation Administration.

The plane, which was registered in Nevada, was heading from San
Diego to Hawthorne Municipal Airport, Gregor said. It was about a
mile and a half away from Compton/Woodley Airport, a general
aviation field, but he said it was unclear whether the pilot was
trying to make an emergency landing.

Compton Deputy Fire Chief Marcel Melanson said two of the injured
were the plane's occupants and three were on the ground. ...

He and two other people tried to open the door of the badly
damaged house but couldn't get it to budge. They helped the young
woman out a window, and when she said her mother was inside, they
clambered through the window themselves to search for her.

"I saw the pilot, so we got him out," Wyatt said.

Then he spotted one of the residents of the house moving under the
rubble. Several people struggled to move that man out of the home
through a sliding-glass door.

"You could smell the fumes," said Wyatt, his jeans stained with
the blood of the injured whom he helped. ...

So what happens now? Does the homeowner sue
the pilot or the plane owner? Can they?
Remember that old homeowner insurance rider
you could get to cover an airplane falling on your
house? Who pays for that mess?
Ken

My best guess is that the homeowner and his insurance agents will sue
the pilot, the owner, the FBO that last handled the aircraft, the
pilot's last two instructors, the person who did the last annual, the
manufacturers of the airplane, props, engines, and vacuum pump (even
though the pump was working at the time, etc., etc., etc. They will
also blame the airports they took off from and intended to land at,
and try to close them down.

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:9301e744-b06f-
:

On Apr 13, 3:52 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
Thankfully, there was no fire.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-
compton13apr13,0,3190581.story
5 hurt as small plane crashes in Compton
By Richard Winton and Carla Hall, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
April 13, 2008
Five people were injured, four critically, Saturday afternoon
when
a twin-engine aircraft crashed nose first into a Compton house
and
sliced into the one next door with one of its wings, authorities
said.

The Cessna 310 crashed just before 4 p.m. in the 500 block of
West
Cypress Street, said Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the Federal
Aviation Administration.

The plane, which was registered in Nevada, was heading from San
Diego to Hawthorne Municipal Airport, Gregor said. It was about a
mile and a half away from Compton/Woodley Airport, a general
aviation field, but he said it was unclear whether the pilot was
trying to make an emergency landing.

Compton Deputy Fire Chief Marcel Melanson said two of the injured
were the plane's occupants and three were on the ground. ...

He and two other people tried to open the door of the badly
damaged house but couldn't get it to budge. They helped the young
woman out a window, and when she said her mother was inside, they
clambered through the window themselves to search for her.

"I saw the pilot, so we got him out," Wyatt said.

Then he spotted one of the residents of the house moving under
the
rubble. Several people struggled to move that man out of the home
through a sliding-glass door.

"You could smell the fumes," said Wyatt, his jeans stained with
the blood of the injured whom he helped. ...

So what happens now? Does the homeowner sue
the pilot or the plane owner? Can they?
Remember that old homeowner insurance rider
you could get to cover an airplane falling on your
house? Who pays for that mess?
Ken






The house fairy

Bertie

So what happens now? Does the homeowner sue
the pilot or the plane owner? Can they?
Remember that old homeowner insurance rider
you could get to cover an airplane falling on your
house? Who pays for that mess?
Ken


whoever has the most money

On Apr 13, 7:29 pm, wrote:
On Apr 13, 6:04 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:



On Apr 13, 3:52 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:

Thankfully, there was no fire.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3190581.story
5 hurt as small plane crashes in Compton
By Richard Winton and Carla Hall, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
April 13, 2008
Five people were injured, four critically, Saturday afternoon when
a twin-engine aircraft crashed nose first into a Compton house and
sliced into the one next door with one of its wings, authorities
said.

The Cessna 310 crashed just before 4 p.m. in the 500 block of West
Cypress Street, said Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the Federal
Aviation Administration.

The plane, which was registered in Nevada, was heading from San
Diego to Hawthorne Municipal Airport, Gregor said. It was about a
mile and a half away from Compton/Woodley Airport, a general
aviation field, but he said it was unclear whether the pilot was
trying to make an emergency landing.

Compton Deputy Fire Chief Marcel Melanson said two of the injured
were the plane's occupants and three were on the ground. ...

He and two other people tried to open the door of the badly
damaged house but couldn't get it to budge. They helped the young
woman out a window, and when she said her mother was inside, they
clambered through the window themselves to search for her.

"I saw the pilot, so we got him out," Wyatt said.

Then he spotted one of the residents of the house moving under the
rubble. Several people struggled to move that man out of the home
through a sliding-glass door.

"You could smell the fumes," said Wyatt, his jeans stained with
the blood of the injured whom he helped. ...

So what happens now? Does the homeowner sue
the pilot or the plane owner? Can they?
Remember that old homeowner insurance rider
you could get to cover an airplane falling on your
house? Who pays for that mess?
Ken

My best guess is that the homeowner and his insurance agents will sue
the pilot, the owner, the FBO that last handled the aircraft, the
pilot's last two instructors, the person who did the last annual, the
manufacturers of the airplane, props, engines, and vacuum pump (even
though the pump was working at the time, etc., etc., etc. They will
also blame the airports they took off from and intended to land at,
and try to close them down.

Sounds like a dozen lawyers x 2 years = 24 lawyer years
+ damages to those crippled for life + property damage,
that's just a start.
Best to do a safe landing.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
:

On Apr 13, 7:29 pm, wrote:
On Apr 13, 6:04 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:



On Apr 13, 3:52 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:

Thankfully, there was no fire.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-
compton13apr13,0,3190581.st
ory
5 hurt as small plane crashes in Compton
By Richard Winton and Carla Hall, Los Angeles Times Staff
Writers April 13, 2008
Five people were injured, four critically, Saturday afternoon
when a twin-engine aircraft crashed nose first into a Compton
house and sliced into the one next door with one of its
wings, authorities said.

The Cessna 310 crashed just before 4 p.m. in the 500 block of
West Cypress Street, said Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the
Federal Aviation Administration.

The plane, which was registered in Nevada, was heading from
San Diego to Hawthorne Municipal Airport, Gregor said. It was
about a mile and a half away from Compton/Woodley Airport, a
general aviation field, but he said it was unclear whether
the pilot was trying to make an emergency landing.

Compton Deputy Fire Chief Marcel Melanson said two of the
injured were the plane's occupants and three were on the
ground. ...

He and two other people tried to open the door of the badly
damaged house but couldn't get it to budge. They helped the
young woman out a window, and when she said her mother was
inside, they clambered through the window themselves to
search for her.

"I saw the pilot, so we got him out," Wyatt said.

Then he spotted one of the residents of the house moving
under the rubble. Several people struggled to move that man
out of the home through a sliding-glass door.

"You could smell the fumes," said Wyatt, his jeans stained
with the blood of the injured whom he helped. ...

So what happens now? Does the homeowner sue
the pilot or the plane owner? Can they?
Remember that old homeowner insurance rider
you could get to cover an airplane falling on your
house? Who pays for that mess?
Ken

My best guess is that the homeowner and his insurance agents will sue
the pilot, the owner, the FBO that last handled the aircraft, the
pilot's last two instructors, the person who did the last annual, the
manufacturers of the airplane, props, engines, and vacuum pump (even
though the pump was working at the time, etc., etc., etc. They will
also blame the airports they took off from and intended to land at,
and try to close them down.

Sounds like a dozen lawyers x 2 years = 24 lawyer years
+ damages to those crippled for life + property damage,
that's just a start.
Best to do a safe landing.

You have a talent for stating the idiotic.


Bertie

In article , Clark
wrote:

So what happens now? Does the homeowner sue
the pilot or the plane owner? Can they?
Remember that old homeowner insurance rider
you could get to cover an airplane falling on your
house? Who pays for that mess?

whoever has the most money

Nope. Whoever has the worst lawyer...

and has money.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote:

Best to do a safe landing.

Right. That's the point. I thought that second fan was supposed to
spare pilots the embarrassment of joining the homeowners for supper
through their roofs.

I have no familiarity with C-310 fuel systems, but how likely is it
that fuel exhaustion would result in _both_ engines quitting before a
suitable landing site could be reached?

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote:

Best to do a safe landing.

Right. That's the point. I thought that second fan was supposed to
spare pilots the embarrassment of joining the homeowners for supper
through their roofs.

I have no familiarity with C-310 fuel systems, but how likely is it
that fuel exhaustion would result in _both_ engines quitting before a
suitable landing site could be reached?



It's called "gross fuel mismanagement". One of the rescuers remarked on
smelling fumes. I doubt the tanks were empty.

Up here, they don't call the 310 "widow maker" for nuthin'. I recall a
crash by Boundary Bay (British Columbia) were the pilot was engaged in
single engine practice. Got himself into a spin with the operating
engine on the wrong side. Witnesses I interviewed said it looked like
one of those maple seeds... all the way down into the mud. Both pilots
were killed (student and instructor).