C-130 on Navy Carrier

Dave in San Diego wrote:



There is a decent pic of the Neptune taking off from Midway he

http://history.navy.mil/avh-1910/PART06.PDF

go to pdf page 18, or document page 176

It, like the Coral Sea pic on the site Ralph cited above, doesn't show
much in the way of markings, though.

Dave in San Diego

That seems to be because there hardly are any. They seem to be limited

to the standard dark blue overall with straightforward national markings,

navy titles, BuNo in white and on some aircraft a white tailcode. That's it.
Rather dreary-looking compared to later markings on ASW-oriented Neptunes


Regards,
Ralph Savelsberg

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:47:38 +0000, Jerry Ennis wrote:
"The CIA and the U-2 Program, 1954-1974" is available in PDF format at
http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/U2/u2.pdf.
Modification of U-2s for carrier operations are discussed on pp.
247-251 and a photo showing markings is on p. 249.

Great, this document goes a long way toward making the model buildable.

Rob

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:01:33 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van Riel
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0600, William Hughes wrote:

Uh, Rob? You did remember the R4Ds flown from the Philippine Sea (CV-47) in Jan
'47, didn't you?

Nope, I didn't (one of the reasons posting here is a good idea, you get
reminded of all sorts of things). Any hints on what it was doing there?
Testing for supply runs? Also, any idea what unit markings it bore at the
time?

As always, thanks for any info.

Rob

Six R4Ds were being transported to Little America, Antarctica, as part of
something called "Operation High Jump". The pilot of #1 was Commander William
Hawkes, with Admiral Richard Byrd as a passenger.

I don't have much information on the event, just a couple of references in my
research materials.

Google turns up several websites that appear to have more info:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...&btnG= Search

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:04:39 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van Riel
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:18:23 -0500, John Keeney wrote:

Oh yea, P-47s flown off in the PTO, complete with CAT launches.

Projects like that are never ending.

Didn't know about that one, but yes, there seems to be an overwhelming
urge to get just about anyting that will fly to work from a carrier.

Rob

ISTR that an active-duty carrier once hosted, while in port, a radio-controlled
model aircraft event; I saw photos a long time ago.

How would you build a scale model of a scale model?

Oh, and don't forget the V-2 that was launched from the Midway...

"William Hughes" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:01:33 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van
Riel
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0600, William Hughes wrote:

Uh, Rob? You did remember the R4Ds flown from the Philippine Sea
(CV-47) in Jan
'47, didn't you?

Nope, I didn't (one of the reasons posting here is a good idea, you get
reminded of all sorts of things). Any hints on what it was doing there?
Testing for supply runs? Also, any idea what unit markings it bore at the
time?

As always, thanks for any info.

Rob

Six R4Ds were being transported to Little America, Antarctica, as part of
something called "Operation High Jump". The pilot of #1 was Commander
William
Hawkes, with Admiral Richard Byrd as a passenger.

I don't have much information on the event, just a couple of references in
my
research materials.


It was a post war Antarctic expedition and Admiral Byrd was
a little more than a passenger he was the expedition head.

CVN 77 was used to transport the ski-equipped R4D's (based
on the C-47/Dakota airframe) to the Antarctic where they were
used for aerial surveys

Note the NeoNazi nuts over on r.a.m will tell you they
were hunting for a sekrit SS Antarctic base

Keith




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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:19:37 -0600, William Hughes
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:01:33 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van Riel
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0600, William Hughes wrote:

Uh, Rob? You did remember the R4Ds flown from the Philippine Sea (CV-47) in Jan
'47, didn't you?

Nope, I didn't (one of the reasons posting here is a good idea, you get
reminded of all sorts of things). Any hints on what it was doing there?
Testing for supply runs? Also, any idea what unit markings it bore at the
time?

As always, thanks for any info.

Rob

Six R4Ds were being transported to Little America, Antarctica, as part of
something called "Operation High Jump". The pilot of #1 was Commander William
Hawkes, with Admiral Richard Byrd as a passenger.

I don't have much information on the event, just a couple of references in my
research materials.

Google turns up several websites that appear to have more info:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...&btnG= Search


Contains an rather small grainy photo of the R4Ds on the carrier deck

http://www.south-pole.com/philippine.htm


Blue Skies
Pat Carpenter

Rob van Riel wrote:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:18:23 -0500, John Keeney wrote:

Oh yea, P-47s flown off in the PTO, complete with CAT launches.

Projects like that are never ending.

Didn't know about that one, but yes, there seems to be an overwhelming
urge to get just about anyting that will fly to work from a carrier.

Rob

....aaand some that won't too!...did you see the pic of the car
that they launched from some carrier?...how in 'ell did they ever
float that one by the hedshed?...imagine some crusty Admiral's
question..."You want to catapult WHAT OFF MY DECK Lt?!?"
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"John Keeney" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
.. .
John Szalay wrote:

Rob van Riel wrote in
news
Lots of info on this event has been posted here, but it leaves me with
a
smaal problem. I've gotten it into my head to build scale models of
every
type of post WWII plane that flew of the decks of US carriers, and now
it
turns out even the Herc qualifies for that. Can anyone help me with
information about the squadron markings on this particular aircraft?
The
links in the various posts show pictures, but they're not very
revealing
in this respect.

Thanks for any help

Rob


Make sure include the U-2 in that list..

...aaand the B-52C (the C is for carrier of course)

B-52N, Gord, B-52N...
sigh The B-52C was an Air Force version, it was much
discussed in RAM.


Of course, 'N' dammit...I keep getting that wrong, The 'C and
Carrier' association keeps frigging me up...now, is it 'N' for
Nuckle (to indicate the nuckle in the wing that folds up to clear
the island...shucks that's knuckle isn't it...damn...surely not
Navy is it?...how unimaginative...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:39:55 +0000, Gord Beaman wrote:

Rob van Riel wrote:
Didn't know about that one, but yes, there seems to be an overwhelming
urge to get just about anyting that will fly to work from a carrier.

...aaand some that won't too!...did you see the pic of the car
that they launched from some carrier?...how in 'ell did they ever
float that one by the hedshed?...imagine some crusty Admiral's
question..."You want to catapult WHAT OFF MY DECK Lt?!?"

As I recal that was a publicity stunt to demonstrate the raw power of the
catapults. A model T Ford that spent all of a mile in the air, wasn't it?

Rob

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:03:10 +0100, Rob van Riel
postulated :

As I recal that was a publicity stunt to demonstrate the raw power of the
catapults. A model T Ford that spent all of a mile in the air, wasn't it?

When I was in a Navy airgroup (CVG-6 in the Fifties), it was standard
procedure to launch a concrete filled "wagon" off the cats after a
carrier left Portsmouth , VA yards to test the cats. The weight was
supposed to simulate an aircraft of the time. Difficult to plot the
trajectory from the flight deck but they went "way" out before arcing
down to the water. I would think that a Model T would disintegrate
with the forces applied from a steam catapult.