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Go to Office Depot and get those little one inch diameter round stick on tabs. You see them as price tags at garage sales. Write the date and tach time for the next oil change. That way you can simply compare the tach time to the time on the tag. Tag comes right off when you want to replace it with a new one. http://www.dealersupplyonline.com/ and click on Lube Stickers. $29.95 gets you a life time supply of date/mileage (ok, use hours here)/ Oil Grade static cling stickers. |
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Go to Jiffy Lube, get an oil change, ask the tech if you can have about a
dozen of his stickers. That's almost a lifetime supply for free. Nothing like a Jiffy Lube sticker in your plane to show you care. "Ron Natalie" wrote in message ... Go to Office Depot and get those little one inch diameter round stick on tabs. You see them as price tags at garage sales. Write the date and tach time for the next oil change. That way you can simply compare the tach time to the time on the tag. Tag comes right off when you want to replace it with a new one. http://www.dealersupplyonline.com/ and click on Lube Stickers. $29.95 gets you a life time supply of date/mileage (ok, use hours here)/ Oil Grade static cling stickers. |
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dave" wrote in message
...I would guess that if they're not logging the changes that they're not doing the changes. All my oil changes are logged by the mechanic. Why wouldn't someone log the change? Frequent oil changes are a plus not a minus. Dave 68 7ECA We don't log ours in the regular logbook. We keep a separate one just for oil changes. We also add if screens and filters were changed, and I also include if oil (and how much) was added between changes. This helps us keep a close track on oil consumption. We use a separate log because we change every 25 hours, and I fly about 150 a year. It takes alot of pages in the little logbooks. Deb -- 1946 Luscombe 8A (His) 1948 Luscombe 8E (Hers) 1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (Ours) Jasper, Ga. (JZP) |
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Dan Thompson wrote:
Go to Jiffy Lube, get an oil change, ask the tech if you can have about a dozen of his stickers. That's almost a lifetime supply for free. Nothing like a Jiffy Lube sticker in your plane to show you care. I think I already suggested that. |
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I've noticed that some people log oil changes but some do not. Yeah. That's life. As usual, it's the FAA's fault. Do you log oil changes? Yes. Eventually. I have a log in the plane where I track flight time (air and engine), VOR checks, and oil consumption. It also has a place to show any notes, like where I landed, IMC time, approaches, whatever. When I change the oil, that log shows it. Eventually, I'll go back and catch up the official log books for my airplane and myself. Usually that happens the next time I need my A&P's signature on something. Here's the thing, though - if I knew someone was going to look at my logbooks (as I would expect any airplane purchaser to do) I would have them caught up. Not because it means much, but because it's so easy to do. It takes all of five minutes. Now let me tell you why some people don't log oil changes. Oil changes are not actually required. It's perfectly legal to fly the plane all year on the same oil, adding as necessary. The 25 (or 50, 100) hour interval is just a recommendation. Ditto gapping plugs, changing filter, etc. So no entry in the logbooks isn't something you can get busted on. On the other hand, if you do make an entry, an ambitious fed can bust you on it. For example, how many of you log that you performed the change (gapped plugs, changed filter) in accordance with the Lycoming (or Continental) service manual? And maybe there is an aircraft manufacturer's manual that takes precedence? An owner is permitted to perform preventive maintenance (elementary operations in Canada) but he is still required to perform it in a manner acceptable to the administrator. That generally means in accordance with the aircraft (or engine) service manual or other publication. If you didn't log it, it didn't happen. So clearly, you performed the preventive maintenance in a manner that might not have been acceptable to the administrator. Busted. I don't hold with that view myself, because if you've ****ed off a fed enough that he's willing to bust you on this, he will find SOMETHING to bust you on, right or wrong - but there are people out there who believe that it's a bad idea to log anything you don't absolutely have to, because that will be used against you. They may even have a point. So basically, because the FAA allows its inspectors to get away with bull**** busts like this, some people are defensively not logging anything they don't have to. Does it mean anything? Not really. Just because it was logged doesn't mean it was done, and vice versa. According to my logbooks, all my hoses were replaced 7 years ago. Thus I was pretty surprised when my left brake hose (in the cabin) blew on brake application. When I removed it (a process that requires lying on your back with feet on the left front seat, holding one wrench in each hand and flashlight in the teeth) I noted that the faded metal tag (unreadable by flashlight, but barely legible in good daylight) said it was manufactured in 1964. Remember, just because it's in writing doesn't mean it's true. Michael |
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Variation to this question.
Does anyone enter the addition of oil between changes into the engine log? I keep a separate record for myself but do not enter it in the official log. Also, my oil change by my A&P costs about $110 including filter and oil sample amalysis with my supplying the oil. How does this compare? Chuck |
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Also, my oil change by my A&P costs about $110 including filter and oil
sample amalysis with my supplying the oil. How does this compare? I Buy my filters 8 to 10 at a time from Aircraft Spruce. Get my oil from Sam's Club a case or two at a time. Change my oil every 50 hours or there about. Every other oil change I send the oil to the lab cost about $10.00 Also have my AP do a compression check at 100 hours. $40.00 I think that $110.00 is a lot for an oil change, but then it denpends on the labor rate of you AP. Hank 172 driver |
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Michael wrote: On the other hand, if you do make an entry, an ambitious fed can bust you on it. For example, how many of you log that you performed the change (gapped plugs, changed filter) in accordance with the Lycoming (or Continental) service manual? Not necessary in the US. An owner is permitted to perform preventive maintenance (elementary operations in Canada) but he is still required to perform it in a manner acceptable to the administrator. Yes. That generally means in accordance with the aircraft (or engine) service manual or other publication. Yes, but you don't have to write that in the logbook. If you didn't log it, it didn't happen. So clearly, you performed the preventive maintenance in a manner that might not have been acceptable to the administrator. Busted. No. Prove the oil change was done wrong. |
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Hankal wrote: Also, my oil change by my A&P costs about $110 including filter and oil sample amalysis with my supplying the oil. How does this compare? I Buy my filters 8 to 10 at a time from Aircraft Spruce. Get my oil from Sam's Club a case or two at a time. Change my oil every 50 hours or there about. Every other oil change I send the oil to the lab cost about $10.00 Also have my AP do a compression check at 100 hours. $40.00 I think that $110.00 is a lot for an oil change, but then it denpends on the labor rate of you AP. $110 is ridiculous, do it yourself, it ain't rocket science. Mine costs $18 total for 9 quarts of oil. I don't have a filter and only do the screen at the annual. |
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