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Old February 22nd 04, 02:09 AM
mah
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Was toying with my gps recently and plotted a course from my home in the
midwest to London Heathrow. I know it uses great circle routing to
calculate the distance and course. Going from west to east it shows a
course of about 45 degrees. On the return trip it shows an intial
course of 310 degrees.

Now, to my old mind, I would have thought a reciprical course of 225 .
It is something in the spherical formula used for the great circle but
I'm too rusty to work through it.

An old navigators who want to help me out?

Thanks in advance.

MAH
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Old February 22nd 04, 02:25 AM
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"mah" wrote...
Was toying with my gps recently and plotted a course from my home in the
midwest to London Heathrow. I know it uses great circle routing to
calculate the distance and course. Going from west to east it shows a
course of about 45 degrees. On the return trip it shows an intial
course of 310 degrees.

Now, to my old mind, I would have thought a reciprical course of 225 .
It is something in the spherical formula used for the great circle but
I'm too rusty to work through it.

An old navigators who want to help me out?


A reciprocal initial heading works for a rhumb line (constant heading) course,
but not for a great circle course (except along the Equator or any longitude
line. In all other cases, great circle routes are curved when plotted on a
Mercator map.

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Old February 22nd 04, 05:04 AM
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:09:30 -0600, mah wrote:

Was toying with my gps recently and plotted a course from my home in the
midwest to London Heathrow. I know it uses great circle routing to
calculate the distance and course. Going from west to east it shows a
course of about 45 degrees. On the return trip it shows an intial
course of 310 degrees.

Now, to my old mind, I would have thought a reciprical course of 225 .
It is something in the spherical formula used for the great circle but


It's not the formula, it's the fact that the world is a sphere.
The formula only reflects this fact.


The Earth is an oblate spheroid.

The equation he seeks is on the web.


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Old February 22nd 04, 10:27 AM
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:09:30 -0600, mah wrote:

Now, to my old mind, I would have thought a reciprical course of 225 .
It is something in the spherical formula used for the great circle but
I'm too rusty to work through it.


You answered the question yourself: it was a Great Circle route. The
heading would change continuously in theory, at intervals in practice.
I wouldn't worry about it, if I were you. Trust your GPS. If you ever
do it in practice, you can always brush up on your celestial
navigation.

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Old February 22nd 04, 01:42 PM
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mah wrote in message ...
Was toying with my gps recently and plotted a course from my home in the
midwest to London Heathrow. I know it uses great circle routing to
calculate the distance and course. Going from west to east it shows a
course of about 45 degrees. On the return trip it shows an intial
course of 310 degrees.

Now, to my old mind, I would have thought a reciprical course of 225 .
It is something in the spherical formula used for the great circle but
I'm too rusty to work through it.


You do not give a lat/long for your home position so a logical answer
is problematical. However a great circle from Heathrow on the angle
of departure you indicate would pass through (roughly) Upper Heyford,
Avon, Kidderminster, Highley and Westbury. However 310 is probably a
rather rough heading for calculations (I know my GPS only gives exact
degrees) so the track may lie considerably to the North or South is
the range is 309 - 311.
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Old February 25th 04, 11:25 AM
mah
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Thanks to all who replied. Occasionally I need to scrape the rust off
the neurons and exercise things.

MAH
 




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