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Shock Mounting Gyros
I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have
shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Thanks |
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Doug Palmer wrote:
I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Thanks How about shock mounting the entire instrument panel? -- J Kimmel www.metalinnovations.com "Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow. |
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I considered this, however as doing the whole panel is a heavier item to
isolate, you end up using more/larger mounts and it becomes something of a wash D "JKimmel" wrote in message et... Doug Palmer wrote: I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Thanks How about shock mounting the entire instrument panel? -- J Kimmel www.metalinnovations.com "Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow. |
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"Doug Palmer" wrote in message ink.net... I considered this, however as doing the whole panel is a heavier item to isolate, you end up using more/larger mounts and it becomes something of a wash Yes, but...... As the whole panel is heavier, if it is isolated as a whole, the weight is more, it will be less likely to vibrate, since the resonate frequency will be lower. Pros and cons both ways. Another pro is, if the whole panel is isolated, all of the other instruments will possibly last longer, too. -- Jim in NC |
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Consider a subpanel of the gyro instruments.
Modern gyros are much lighter than the one of the WWII generation! Cessna use a 3/8" dia with 10-32 double stud. Granger carries a double stud of 10-32 1/2 diameter which is rated for about 17 pound in shear. Numbers off the top of my head, need to actually look in the catalog. Any type of vibration isolation will benenfit. Kent Felkins Tulsa "JKimmel" wrote in message et... Doug Palmer wrote: I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Thanks How about shock mounting the entire instrument panel? -- J Kimmel www.metalinnovations.com "Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow. |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:30:07 GMT, "Doug Palmer"
wrote: I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Just bolt 'em in. Old panels used to be isolated, then the gyros. I don't think the modern panels do at all. Besides a few unusual attitudes without caging is probably harder on them than the vibration. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Thanks |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:24:35 -0500, Roger
wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:30:07 GMT, "Doug Palmer" wrote: I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Just bolt 'em in. Old panels used to be isolated, then the gyros. I don't think the modern panels do at all. Besides a few unusual attitudes without caging is probably harder on them than the vibration. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Thanks my panel has no vibration mounts. instruments are still all serviceable after 20 years and 550hours. the key to success is to make sure the prop and spinner are balanced and to rebalance them if any vibration seems to be starting. oh, that and keeping the exhaust pipes off the frames. Stealth Pilot |
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Hi, I don't understand, are you building a Classic type of plane? If not,
why use 1930 and 1940 technology? I'm not to the point of building my panel yet, but I'm going glass. If you are rebuilding a panel, it's not cost effective, but if your going from scatch.... I priced the GRT's EFIS & full engine monitor for the same price as a vacumm system. You get a lot more than a Six pack system for the same price. If you haven't purchased parts of your system, you may want to check the features. david "Doug Palmer" wrote in message k.net... I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Thanks |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:22:14 -0600, "David Koehler"
wrote: Hi, I don't understand, are you building a Classic type of plane? If not, why use 1930 and 1940 technology? I'm not to the point of building my panel yet, but I'm going glass. For a *basic* VFR panel you can't beat a few mechanical gages for cost and return. OTOH my G-III if I ever get it done will be full, dual, redundant glass with the required mechanical backups. If you are rebuilding a panel, it's not cost effective, but if your going from scatch.... I priced the GRT's EFIS & full engine monitor for the same Engine monitor? Even in the Deb I only have one CHT and one EGT probe. Again on the G-III everything will be monitored complete with trends. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com price as a vacumm system. You get a lot more than a Six pack system for the same price. If you haven't purchased parts of your system, you may want to check the features. david "Doug Palmer" wrote in message nk.net... I am starting the planning of my panel and wondering how many people have shock-mounted their gyros. Please also comment if you have NOT done so, and weather or not you think it actually helped. I am working with limited panel space (aren't we all) and the shock mounts will take up valuable real estate. I am considering using the smaller lord mounts but would also like to hear of other solutions people have found to accomplish the mission using minimal extra panel space. Thanks |
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I used 4 AN-1000-8's (IIRC) on the red parasol.
It worked well, for a small panel (under 10 pounds). I also found a steel cup washer that fit the AN-1000's and used a couple of them to "tune" the panel response rate a little higher. For the Tailwind I woas gonna do the panel in sections using the same tricks.... Richard Morgans wrote: "Doug Palmer" wrote in message ink.net... I considered this, however as doing the whole panel is a heavier item to isolate, you end up using more/larger mounts and it becomes something of a wash Yes, but...... As the whole panel is heavier, if it is isolated as a whole, the weight is more, it will be less likely to vibrate, since the resonate frequency will be lower. Pros and cons both ways. Another pro is, if the whole panel is isolated, all of the other instruments will possibly last longer, too. -- Jim in NC |
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