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I'm buying your sectionals for a year.
Not long ago, in rec.aviation.student,
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....com&frame=off I learned that the FAA is now selling scanned sectional chart DVDs. http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xm...ctional_Raster At over $300/year for each of the East and West sets, it sounded like many potential users wouldn't get to touch them. That would be a shame. I've wanted the data for a long time too, so I decided to get it and make it available to everyone. http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA_sectionals/ I'm hoping to provide a bunch of tools to manipulate these (and other) data sets, but that'll take awhile so I'm offering the raw data for now. I'll probably move it around later, but I'll make sure it's easy to find. Note that the East and West data sets only take 2.7GB, so even with the Alaska set, a single DVD has plenty of space for all of this (and the ATA-100 data and an operating system...). Is anyone interested in DVDs like that? I'm thinking that I'll donate these DVDs to Purdue. The Computer Society there makes copies of various CDs as a fund raiser and I'd try to get them to start making DVDs of these data sets if people would pay enough to make it worthwhile. I'll try to get some tools going soon. I'll also be configuring to allow other people to write their own tools on my server and access everything remotely through XML-RPC. Enjoy! --kyler |
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Kyler Laird writes:
I've wanted the data for a long time too, so I decided to get it and make it available to everyone. http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA_sectionals/ Very nice -- I hope you don't get burned up on the bandwidth because of your generosity. All the best, David |
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In rec.aviation.student Kyler Laird wrote:
I learned that the FAA is now selling scanned sectional chart DVDs. .... I've wanted the data for a long time too, so I decided to get it and make it available to everyone. http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA_sectionals/ *boggle* I'm not sure which is more shocking - that the FAA would sell scanned sectionals at all or that somebody would put them up for free download. THANK YOU! If you are at all worried about the bandwidth, you might want to set up BitTorrent on your server: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ Regards, Boris |
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Borislav Deianov writes:
*boggle* I'm not sure which is more shocking - that the FAA would sell scanned sectionals at all or that somebody would put them up for free download. Neither should be shocking. Both should be *expected*. We (taxpayers) pay for this data collection, right? THANK YOU! You're welcome. I'll be thrilled if people find it useful. BTW, I decided to finally move the ATA-100 data and my old (ug, Perl) interface over to the same server. http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/ I find that data to be almost as interesting as the sectionals but I think it's really going to get interesting when they're combined. If you are at all worried about the bandwidth, you might want to set up BitTorrent on your server: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ Thank you for the suggestion. BitTorrent is great and, of course, anyone is welcome to inject this data into it, but I hope some thought will go into some sort of versioning so that updates will easily propagate. It shouldn't be necessary though. I got this server with the intent of serving up useful stuff like this without worrying about bandwidth usage (as I do with my other colo). plug This one is hosted at FDC Servers. http://www.fdcservers.net/dedicated.html The bandwidth is "unmetered." If it does bog down, I'll try to upgrade to a faster plan. /plug Seriously...enjoy! No worries. --kyler |
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Kyler Laird writes:
*boggle* I'm not sure which is more shocking - that the FAA would sell scanned sectionals at all or that somebody would put them up for free download. Neither should be shocking. Both should be *expected*. We (taxpayers) pay for this data collection, right? We taxpayers in the rest of the world also pay for our governments' geodata collection, but we see precious little of the result unless we pay a lot of money. I know that we non-Americans don't always have nice things to say about your country, but I think this is one area where the U.S. is decades ahead of the rest of the world. For example, my handrolled Canadian GPS airport and navaid database comes from U.S. DAFIF data, since the U.S. publishes *far* more free data for Canada than the Canadian government does. The new 3 arcsecond SRTM elevation data coming out is more than adequate for a real-life, worldwide aviation terrain-avoidance system (or will be, once it's all been checked), and the U.S. government is also releasing it for free. I could go on and on, but I try not to gush online. All the best, David |
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On 13 Nov 2003 06:55:23 +0100, Frog wrote:
From: Kyler Laird I've wanted the data for a long time too, so I decided to get it and make it available to everyone. Thank's, that's a hell of a nice gesture. I'll say. Hey, forgive me for being a low-timer noob rube, but how would one go about using this data? Any examples I could use to start hacking away? Rob -- [You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to educate themselves. -- Orson Scott Card |
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HA! Won't Boeing/Jepp love that. The industry needs the competition,
but we might hear about Kyler's brakes failing while he drives around a slippery mountain curve one day! On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:08:26 GMT, Kyler Laird wrote: Not long ago, in rec.aviation.student, http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....com&frame=off I learned that the FAA is now selling scanned sectional chart DVDs. http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xm...ctional_Raster At over $300/year for each of the East and West sets, it sounded like many potential users wouldn't get to touch them. That would be a shame. I've wanted the data for a long time too, so I decided to get it and make it available to everyone. http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA_sectionals/ I'm hoping to provide a bunch of tools to manipulate these (and other) data sets, but that'll take awhile so I'm offering the raw data for now. I'll probably move it around later, but I'll make sure it's easy to find. Note that the East and West data sets only take 2.7GB, so even with the Alaska set, a single DVD has plenty of space for all of this (and the ATA-100 data and an operating system...). Is anyone interested in DVDs like that? I'm thinking that I'll donate these DVDs to Purdue. The Computer Society there makes copies of various CDs as a fund raiser and I'd try to get them to start making DVDs of these data sets if people would pay enough to make it worthwhile. I'll try to get some tools going soon. I'll also be configuring to allow other people to write their own tools on my server and access everything remotely through XML-RPC. Enjoy! --kyler |
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Frog writes:
I hate to be a pain in the butt, but would it be possible for you to split the files. It would, and I'm going to be doing some weird things with them that might help you, but it shouldn't be a problem even now. I've only got a lowly dial up connection and it would take me 4 1/2 days to download just the eastern set. If you could split it up a little, I could download it over roughly a week and a half of nights. You can split them on your own. I'm running Apache so byterange requests are well supported. You should be able to request any portion of the files. If you don't know what that means...find an HTTP client that supports "resuming downloads", "continuing downloads" or "regetting". BTW, I've had bandwidth problems. I noticed I was only serving about 1Mbps last night so I filed a report. This morning I was up to 2.5Mbps but now I'm down around 1.5Mbps. I hope to get it up to at least 5Mbps. --kyler |
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Robert Perkins writes:
Hey, forgive me for being a low-timer noob rube, but how would one go about using this data? Any examples I could use to start hacking away? TIFF viewers are widely available so if you just want to grab an image and view/print it you should be all set. If you want to go back and forth between pixels and locations (latitude and longitude), you'll need to exploit these images' GeoTIFF info. http://remotesensing.org/geotiff/geotiff.html I'm using GDAL http://www.remotesensing.org/gdal/ from Python to do this. I'll be happy to share code, but I'm still trying to figure out a lot of it. If you're not into programming that much, wait for me to get some other tools available. Feel free to make requests. I'm thinking that I might start posting about this in rec.aviation.misc with subjects beginning "aviationtoolbox: " so that others can easily track/skip the threads. --kyler |
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Stu Gotts writes:
HA! Won't Boeing/Jepp love that. The industry needs the competition, but we might hear about Kyler's brakes failing while he drives around a slippery mountain curve one day! Another good reason for me to stay in Indiana... --kyler |
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