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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm not a fan of Walmart (they STILL owe me money, from my previous business). They are absolute *******s to do business with, from the vendor end -- but I can't argue the fact that their employees are friendly, outgoing, well-trained, and helpful. My gosh...I can't think of a place around here with as uneducated, rude, trashy, and unhelpful employees as Wal-Mart. Ok, except the DFW parking authority people. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote: I'm not a fan of Walmart (they STILL owe me money, from my previous business). They are absolute *******s to do business with, from the vendor end -- but I can't argue the fact that their employees are friendly, outgoing, well-trained, and helpful. At least they are around here. Maybe it's just Iowa... -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
Sorry Jay, but I see the other side of this. I have been in a four year
battle to save the last full square mile of wetlands in Ridgefield from being turned into golf courses, condos, business and industrial development, and other icky things that would destroy our little town. I've never been to Iowa City, so I don't know what the impact of such a store would be on the feel of the town, but I can understand those who don't want such a behemoth in their back yard, and also understand those who don't want to be shafted by WalMart itself. When the mall went up by Danbury airport, a lot of the local stores on Main Street were affected, and at this point it's mostly real estate offices. However, I also understand the benefits of such megastores, and do shop at the mall. Incredibly, the SAME THREE PEOPLE from the late 1970s (a group of former hippies -- Iowa City is chock full of 'em) reconstituted itself to stop THIS Walmart store. It is a threat to their way of life. You would too if it were to replace an airport, and thus threaten your way of life. The city had allowed a zoning variance on the land, in order to facilitate Walmart's purchase Zoning variances are just like printing money. It's one of the ways the municipality can favor one group over another. The variances that our developer wanted (for the Bennetts Pond property) would have ultimately raised its value from $8 million to $30 million, depending on how you calculate. All windfall to the developer, and on the backs of the taxpayer. Everything was done to take the maximum amount of time possible That's our legal system. That's how it works. You would do the same thing to save an airport, wouldn't you? They then decided not to allow another variance that Walmart was seeking to change the land from a "100 year flood plain" to something less restrictive My sister lived in a "100 year flood plain". Her house flooded eight feet deep. We later found out that it flooded the same way several years before. It turns out that "100 year flood plain" means, if the land is undisturbed, that on the average it floods once per hundred years. But once the land around it is developed, floods typically happen more often, sometimes an order of magnitude more often. The designation however is rarely changed. Developing the parcel may well cause it to flood more often. Making it =more= restrictive is what is called for, not making it =less= restrictive. All of this of course depends on the specific geology of the site, but I doubt they did a hundred year study. It was really a simple wording change, but...) "It's just a standard contract, you don't need to read it..." for example, they would not let us hang a "Grand Opening" banner at the hotel, when we opened in 2002, because of some absurd local ordinance. It's only absurd to you because you wanted to hang the sign. It may well be that the tonwspeople didn't want to look at the sign. They have a right to that, via the legislative process - a process that works so well we're exporting it at gunpoint to the middle east. they were able to defeat the building of a new store that (a) would have provided jobs for hundreds, (b) would have meant development of restaurants and retail stores on the out-lots all around, and (c) would have made our airport financially self-sufficient. All those are positives, but there are negatives too. It's all a balance, and other people's rights count too. The "Stop Walmart" folks are nothing but selfish, pompous asses, who have harmed more working Americans... Translation: "Your ox got gored, and you don't like it." Putting up a Walmart would also harm working Americans. Again, I don't know the specifics of your town, but I am here to tell you that the negative impact of development here in Ridgefield CT is quite onerous, and the steamroller keeps on coming. Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
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Jose wrote: for example, they would not let us hang a "Grand Opening" banner at the hotel, when we opened in 2002, because of some absurd local ordinance. It's only absurd to you because you wanted to hang the sign. It may well be that the tonwspeople didn't want to look at the sign. They have a right to that, via the legislative process - a process that works so well we're exporting it at gunpoint to the middle east. Have you seen the area of town around Jay's hotel? Hanging a banner, ANY banner would be improvement - cripes, it's nothing but store after store after ugly store... Don't think farms, and corn, etc when thinking of Iowa City. (Sorry Jay - the beautiful part is the airport) -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
Have you seen the area of town around Jay's hotel?
No. I said that up top. Hanging a banner, ANY banner would be improvement - cripes, it's nothing but store after store after ugly store... Don't think farms, and corn, etc when thinking of Iowa City. Then maybe it's too late for Iowa City residents. We're trying to prevent that from happening where I live. I don't say the rules are appropriate for that town (although the residents, through their government proxies, think so). What I do say is that if the town thinks it's an appropriate restriction, Jay is in the minority with his opinion that it is "absurd". I wonder how "store after store after ugly store" gets by with no signage. Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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("Jose" wrote)
How is this =really= different from WalMart jumping in and crushing all the local stores? Think for a moment. Wall-Mart doesn't invest $60 million to get back $4 million, or even $4 million ...per year. The city plays by different marketplace rules - a little like Al Capone. Montblack |
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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
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Jose wrote: I wonder how "store after store after ugly store" gets by with no signage. signs are everywhere. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
I wonder how "store after store after ugly store" gets by with no signage.
signs are everywhere. Are they in compliance? What was so eggregious about Jay's sign? Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
"Michelle Settle" wrote in message ... "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message ... Those stores must adapt or die. It is not that hard to compete with Wal-Mart as a specialty store. All you have to do is provide something that Wal-Mart cannot. That something is usually service or expertise. There is a reason that the most expensive retail real estate in any given town is next to a Wal-Mart. I find it amazing that you need explained this to an adult. Michelle So do I Michelle, so do I. |
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POL $640.00 to fill the tanks...
"Don Tuite" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:24:43 -0600, Newps wrote: Jose wrote: A lumberyard? Have you ever been to a Wal Mart? Sorry. I was thinking Home Depot. Other examples would apply though. No they don't. Wal Mart does not put well run, efficient businesses out of business. I've heard that they overbuy from small suppliers, squeeze the margins out of them with promises of large volumes,thereby limiting those suppliers to a single customer, bankrupt them and take over the assets. I don't have any first-hand verification, though. Fifty years ago, the same stories were told about Sears Roebuck. There is the potential to do that. The little guy wouldn't be able to compete because he couldn't get the stock. Don Actually it is a story that was told about Sears that evolved into a story about Wal-Mart. While Wal-Mart may be at times a little slow paying vendors I can find no case where Wal-Mart has taken over a vendor that they put into financial problems. For that mater I can't find a case of WM taking over a vendor. They did take over a bank only after they realized that 85% of the money in that bank was Walton family money. Wal-Mart does have one interesting policy though. If you are vendor you must have an office in the Northwest area. It doesn't mater if you supply 1 item or 1000. The population in NWA metro area has just about doubled in the last 10 years. |
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