hi alt oxygen

Guy Alcala wrote:

The difference being the rate at which you ascend from lower altitudes,
although the military's 10,000 foot rule seems very conservativ. IIRR,
even the FAA allows pilots to fly between 12,500 and 14,000 ft. for 1/2 an
hour without O2, and pax can do it indefinitely. Pity the poor fighter
pilots in WW1, who used to climb up to 17-20,000 feet without O2 and
patrol there for an hour or so in open, unheated cockpits. And suffered
massive headaches as a result.


Ah, memories come back ... in my old freight dog days I used to fly with
an older guy who hated to waste fuel on pressurization while crossing
the Rockies in Montana. His only complaint was that he had a hard time
keeping his cigarettes lit when the MEA's were in the flight levels.

Rick

Tarver Engineering wrote:

In brief, being drunk is kind of the same as being exposed to high altitude.
In both cases, oxygen to your brain and muscles is reduced.

Even briefer, being Tarver illustrates the results of chronic hypoxia.

Rick

In message , Guy Alcala
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Cub Driver wrote:

On 10 Mar 2004 21:12:59 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote:

Rule of thumb - O2 over 10,000 feet.

It used to amuse me, in the days before the Eisenhower Tunnel, that
the highway over Loveland Pass in CO took the driver above the
altitude at which the USAF wanted pilots to use oxygen masks.

At Aspen of course we skied all winter at above 11,000 feet. (At
Loveland, the parking lot was higher than that.) Do you suppose that's
why ski bums are famously so unstable?

The difference being the rate at which you ascend from lower altitudes,
although the military's 10,000 foot rule seems very conservativ. IIRR,
even the FAA allows pilots to fly between 12,500 and 14,000 ft. for 1/2 an
hour without O2, and pax can do it indefinitely. Pity the poor fighter
pilots in WW1, who used to climb up to 17-20,000 feet without O2 and
patrol there for an hour or so in open, unheated cockpits. And suffered
massive headaches as a result.

Not to mention the castor oil...

Mike
-
M.J.Powell

Cub Driver writes:

At Aspen of course we skied all winter at above 11,000 feet. (At
Loveland, the parking lot was higher than that.) Do you suppose that's
why ski bums are famously so unstable?

You can make up for some deficiency by doing more breathing.
Ed Gauss, an old AK bush pilot, told the story that he'd be
on O2 & his wife would keep awake without, by playing her
harmonica.
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Rick wrote:

Ah, memories come back ... in my old freight dog days I used to fly with
an older guy who hated to waste fuel on pressurization while crossing
the Rockies in Montana. His only complaint was that he had a hard time
keeping his cigarettes lit when the MEA's were in the flight levels.



Maybe it was lit... he just couldn't see the glow.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN


http://www.mortimerschnerd.com

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Tarver Engineering wrote:

In brief, being drunk is kind of the same as being exposed to high
altitude.
In both cases, oxygen to your brain and muscles is reduced.

Even briefer, being Tarver illustrates the results of chronic hypoxia.

"Rick" wrote in message
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Ah, memories come back ... in my old freight dog days I used to fly with
an older guy who hated to waste fuel on pressurization while crossing
the Rockies in Montana. His only complaint was that he had a hard time
keeping his cigarettes lit when the MEA's were in the flight levels.

chronic hypoxia

Bwahahahahahahahaha

Subject: hi alt oxygen
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 3/11/04 8:32 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"Rick" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

In brief, being drunk is kind of the same as being exposed to high
altitude.
In both cases, oxygen to your brain and muscles is reduced.

Even briefer, being Tarver illustrates the results of chronic hypoxia.

"Rick" wrote in message
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Ah, memories come back ... in my old freight dog days I used to fly with
an older guy who hated to waste fuel on pressurization while crossing
the Rockies in Montana. His only complaint was that he had a hard time
keeping his cigarettes lit when the MEA's were in the flight levels.

chronic hypoxia

Bwahahahahahahahaha


Actually you are right. Oxygen drunks were not uncommon (hic)



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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Subject: hi alt oxygen
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 3/11/04 8:32 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"Rick" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

In brief, being drunk is kind of the same as being exposed to high
altitude.
In both cases, oxygen to your brain and muscles is reduced.

Even briefer, being Tarver illustrates the results of chronic hypoxia.

"Rick" wrote in message
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Ah, memories come back ... in my old freight dog days I used to fly
with
an older guy who hated to waste fuel on pressurization while crossing
the Rockies in Montana. His only complaint was that he had a hard time
keeping his cigarettes lit when the MEA's were in the flight levels.

chronic hypoxia

Bwahahahahahahahaha


Actually you are right. Oxygen drunks were not uncommon (hic)

I knew a few of those.

Altitude Chamber training or refresher class. Anyone have a problem with
theirs?

My only "problem" was the green tint to the atmosphere and the insane giggling
of the older O-4 thru O-6 and the horrified looks of the newer Flight Nurse
trainees.
I had a tough time keeping a straight face and the more you laugh the more
green air you inhale.
My last refresher was at Offut and the class was about equally split between
old farts and new farts, with a few of us mid level farts thrown in the mix.

Rick
MFE

ubject: Chamber Ride was: hi alt oxygen
From: (OXMORON1)
Date: 3/11/04 9:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Altitude Chamber training or refresher class. Anyone have a problem with
theirs?

My only "problem" was the green tint to the atmosphere and the insane
giggling
of the older O-4 thru O-6 and the horrified looks of the newer Flight Nurse
trainees.
I had a tough time keeping a straight face and the more you laugh the more
green air you inhale.
My last refresher was at Offut and the class was about equally split between
old farts and new farts, with a few of us mid level farts thrown in the mix.

Rick
MFE


One chamber ride I will never forget is the gas chamber ride. Phosgene, Mustard
and tear gasses. Unforgettable


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer