NASA Shuttle pics

Gentlemen, gentlemen I never intended to nor did I want to set off an
internal war of words over who
is or is not right. I simply wanted some direction as to how I could
unencrypt the NASA pics.

Joe you are right, I am an older member of the group and thou fairly pc
literate I am simply not
familiar with the various files and formats that JS3 has posted re the NASA
pics. So I have no
idea of even how to go about opening them. Hence my original question to the
group.
At the end of the day I would have thought that we are all subscribers to
the aviation newsgroup
as we have a love of planes and associated issues (with the odd hangar queen
thrown in for good measure)
- see I do have a sense of humour!!. So intrenal bickering solves nothing!!

So I will say bye bye to the nasa pics and watch with interest for the next
installments of good pics re planes etc.
Phil


"Joseph Testagrose" wrote in message
...
JS3 is a ****ing ****head, he floods the newsgroup with hundreds of
posts in complete disregard of the wishes of the members of the
newsgroup. He could post jpg's 10 day and have compassion for the
older members of the newsgroup who don't have the time to learn new
ways of opening photos in formats they have no idea of what they are.
Joe.
On 12 Aug 2008 15:58:05 GMT, Lee
wrote:

Mitchell Holman wrote in
:


All I can offer is caution. I thought I would follow the masses and
give it a try. I did a Google on WINrar and then picked this site
http://gperavguslive.info/.

I agree my stupid error. Ended up with a virus - trogon - or what
ever.
Spent 9 hours of my present life getting rid of the POS.

Life and computer is back to normal again and doubt I will ever
consider
dealing with RAR or PAR files ever again. I really don't care how good
they are reported to be.

So what ever you decide for your fate be aware you have been warned of
the Dark Side.

Good luck.



Personally I have never seen a reason to stray from jpegs.
They don't carry viruses, they are read by every image viewer
known to man, they can be resized and enhanced by even more,
and they will be the universal standard for years to come.

IMHO, that is............





Mitchell, as one of your biggest fans, it bothers me to have to say
this...
but you are yelling "Fire" in the crowded theatre. Shame on you!!

You and the other guy (who "says" he got the virus) are not helping
matters
at all, in fact, what you have said in haste regarding RAR is counter-
productive at the very least. What few little rabbits who might have
taken
a chance to learn how to work with RARs/PARs have been frightened off, for
no telling how long.

By phrasing your statements as you did, both of you scared the ignorant
away from using an improved way of sending/receiving large amounts of
information over the net.

WinRar was not the reason he got a bug... he got it from a site preying on
the unlearned and unguarded, who wanted to learn. WinRAR was the bait.
The same could happen if someone was searching for information on how to
convert .BMP files to .JPG.

WinRAR had nothing to do with getting a bug, only his ****-poor choice of
sites from which to learn. Lesson learned. Do not to go to some brand X
site for information (or at least keep you prophylactic fresh). There are
plenty of reputable places (e.g. C-Net, PC World) to learn something about
all things digital.

Just 'cause Google places a site in the first few entries, doesn't mean
it's a nice place. Google doesn't give a **** about your virus
protection... but they do care about incoming dollars.

You know yourself how ****y this group can be, Mitchell. Now, for more
years to come, they will all blame the evils of WinRAR for the downfall of
Roman Empire, the Tunguska blast and the reason their pricks don't stay
hard. JeebusGawd, now there is *another* wicked-evil that goes bump in the
night (along with the mere mention of that boogie-man, YEnc).

You also know about the howls of anguish from this lot if a picture does
not match their standards. (Of course those standards are subject to
change
at their whim or the day of the week)

These HiRez Shuttle pics would have them screaming bloody murder if they
came over the wire as a JPG. Just imagine the audacity of having to make
one of these guys join a multi-part picture. Better yet, if you could get
such a photo across the wire in one part... then they'd be bitching that
"it takes too long" or "it's too big"

Damned if you do...

Rather than staying perched on this soap box, I'll close by pointing out
that this group, as a whole, would be a perfect comparison to the current
crisis in our public education system.

The ones who learn and are willing to do so, must continually slow down to
the speed of those unwilling or incapable of learning. Rather than having
the slow ones work harder and learn more, we continue to dumb down the
group to the lowest denominator. The real ****er are the calls for a
burning at the stake when anyone shows a little imagination, change or
initiative.

ABPA-holes.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:36:13 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"ABLE_1" wrote

The most frustrating thing is that my "Virus Protection" was and is up to
date. I even ran a scan after it happened and it came up that my system
was clean????? Ended up re-loading a full system C:\ backup and all was
better.

A friend got a virus, and it was a smart one.

He could not revert to an earlier time, to get rid of it. He could restore
the system only to the day he got the virus. He has not cleaned his system,
using all the online resources he could find.

I have a feeling that only a re-format is going to do the job, but he has
software that he will not be able to get again, after a format.

Frustrating; some people have nothing better to do than to sit around and
write nasty virus code.

Worst one I saw was a machine where the virus had dsabled the ability
to copy files!
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

A waiter brings the customer the steak he ordered with his thumb over the meat.
"Are you crazy?" yelled the customer, "with your hand on my steak?"
"What" answers the waiter, "You want it to fall on the floor again?"

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:04:13 -0400, "ABLE_1"
wrote:

All I can offer is caution. I thought I would follow the masses and give it
a try. I did a Google on WINrar and then picked this site
http://gperavguslive.info/.

I agree my stupid error. Ended up with a virus - trogon - or what ever.
Spent 9 hours of my present life getting rid of the POS.

Life and computer is back to normal again and doubt I will ever consider
dealing with RAR or PAR files ever again. I really don't care how good they
are reported to be.

So what ever you decide for your fate be aware you have been warned of the
Dark Side.

Well, Les -since you used google- if you had clicked on the FIRST
non-ad link to http://www.rarlab.com/, you would have found the home
of WinRAR. I'm guessing you focused on the word FREE for the link you
cited. Yep, I'm sure they'll let you download the trial version for
FREE, just like rarlab.com will. By the way, the most recent (Aug 2)
announced version is 3.80 beta, so I would be sceptical of
gperavguslive's advertisement of a version 3.82.

I purchased a liscense several years ago, and have had precisely ZERO
issues with virii, trojans, or anything else.

Sorry. This thread is starting to go off-topic, but for those who are
honestly thinking of trying WinRAR, I felt obliged to debunk the above
bilge. WinRAR is a well-known, reliable archive utility. To repeat,
I've used it for years and can assure you it's trustworthy.

Of course, it helps if you try the company website first, no?

"ABLE_1" schreef in bericht
...

Personally I have never seen a reason to stray from jpegs.
They don't carry viruses, they are read by every image viewer
known to man, they can be resized and enhanced by even more,
and they will be the universal standard for years to come.

IMHO, that is............



AMEN!!!!!!!!


So there are still sane people around.
Almost makes you believe there is still hope

Regards,
Herman

"Lee" schreef in bericht
. 89...
Mitchell Holman wrote in
:


All I can offer is caution. I thought I would follow the masses and
give it a try. I did a Google on WINrar and then picked this site
http://gperavguslive.info/.

I agree my stupid error. Ended up with a virus - trogon - or what ever.
Spent 9 hours of my present life getting rid of the POS.

Life and computer is back to normal again and doubt I will ever consider
dealing with RAR or PAR files ever again. I really don't care how good
they are reported to be.

So what ever you decide for your fate be aware you have been warned of
the Dark Side.

Good luck.



Personally I have never seen a reason to stray from jpegs.
They don't carry viruses, they are read by every image viewer
known to man, they can be resized and enhanced by even more,
and they will be the universal standard for years to come.

IMHO, that is............





Mitchell, as one of your biggest fans, it bothers me to have to say
this...
but you are yelling "Fire" in the crowded theatre. Shame on you!!

You and the other guy (who "says" he got the virus) are not helping
matters
at all, in fact, what you have said in haste regarding RAR is counter-
productive at the very least. What few little rabbits who might have
taken
a chance to learn how to work with RARs/PARs have been frightened off, for
no telling how long.

By phrasing your statements as you did, both of you scared the ignorant
away from using an improved way of sending/receiving large amounts of
information over the net.

WinRar was not the reason he got a bug... he got it from a site preying on
the unlearned and unguarded, who wanted to learn. WinRAR was the bait.
The same could happen if someone was searching for information on how to
convert .BMP files to .JPG.

WinRAR had nothing to do with getting a bug, only his ****-poor choice of
sites from which to learn. Lesson learned. Do not to go to some brand X
site for information (or at least keep you prophylactic fresh). There are
plenty of reputable places (e.g. C-Net, PC World) to learn something about
all things digital.

Just 'cause Google places a site in the first few entries, doesn't mean
it's a nice place. Google doesn't give a **** about your virus
protection... but they do care about incoming dollars.

You know yourself how ****y this group can be, Mitchell. Now, for more
years to come, they will all blame the evils of WinRAR for the downfall of
Roman Empire, the Tunguska blast and the reason their pricks don't stay
hard. JeebusGawd, now there is *another* wicked-evil that goes bump in the
night (along with the mere mention of that boogie-man, YEnc).

You also know about the howls of anguish from this lot if a picture does
not match their standards. (Of course those standards are subject to
change
at their whim or the day of the week)

These HiRez Shuttle pics would have them screaming bloody murder if they
came over the wire as a JPG. Just imagine the audacity of having to make
one of these guys join a multi-part picture. Better yet, if you could get
such a photo across the wire in one part... then they'd be bitching that
"it takes too long" or "it's too big"

Damned if you do...

Rather than staying perched on this soap box, I'll close by pointing out
that this group, as a whole, would be a perfect comparison to the current
crisis in our public education system.

The ones who learn and are willing to do so, must continually slow down to
the speed of those unwilling or incapable of learning. Rather than having
the slow ones work harder and learn more, we continue to dumb down the
group to the lowest denominator. The real ****er are the calls for a
burning at the stake when anyone shows a little imagination, change or
initiative.

ABPA-holes.

That was not his point.
He merely pointed out his personal view that he saw no reason to stray from
JPEG. What is wrong with that?
If anybody else wants to do differently, go right ahead.

The problem at this point is that J3 is choking the NG with thousands of
posts.
It would be mucht better and less irritating if he opened a website with his
pictures and merely posted a link.

Regards,
Herman

"Herman" wrote in
b.home.nl:


"Lee" schreef in bericht
. 89...
Mitchell Holman wrote in
:


All I can offer is caution. I thought I would follow the masses
and give it a try. I did a Google on WINrar and then picked this
site http://gperavguslive.info/.

I agree my stupid error. Ended up with a virus - trogon - or what
ever. Spent 9 hours of my present life getting rid of the POS.

Life and computer is back to normal again and doubt I will ever
consider dealing with RAR or PAR files ever again. I really don't
care how good they are reported to be.

So what ever you decide for your fate be aware you have been warned
of the Dark Side.

Good luck.



Personally I have never seen a reason to stray from jpegs.
They don't carry viruses, they are read by every image viewer
known to man, they can be resized and enhanced by even more,
and they will be the universal standard for years to come.

IMHO, that is............





Mitchell, as one of your biggest fans, it bothers me to have to say
this...
but you are yelling "Fire" in the crowded theatre. Shame on you!!

You and the other guy (who "says" he got the virus) are not helping
matters
at all, in fact, what you have said in haste regarding RAR is
counter- productive at the very least. What few little rabbits who
might have taken
a chance to learn how to work with RARs/PARs have been frightened
off, for no telling how long.

By phrasing your statements as you did, both of you scared the
ignorant away from using an improved way of sending/receiving large
amounts of information over the net.

WinRar was not the reason he got a bug... he got it from a site
preying on the unlearned and unguarded, who wanted to learn. WinRAR
was the bait. The same could happen if someone was searching for
information on how to convert .BMP files to .JPG.

WinRAR had nothing to do with getting a bug, only his ****-poor
choice of sites from which to learn. Lesson learned. Do not to go to
some brand X site for information (or at least keep you prophylactic
fresh). There are plenty of reputable places (e.g. C-Net, PC World)
to learn something about all things digital.

Just 'cause Google places a site in the first few entries, doesn't
mean it's a nice place. Google doesn't give a **** about your virus
protection... but they do care about incoming dollars.

You know yourself how ****y this group can be, Mitchell. Now, for
more years to come, they will all blame the evils of WinRAR for the
downfall of Roman Empire, the Tunguska blast and the reason their
pricks don't stay hard. JeebusGawd, now there is *another*
wicked-evil that goes bump in the night (along with the mere mention
of that boogie-man, YEnc).

You also know about the howls of anguish from this lot if a picture
does not match their standards. (Of course those standards are
subject to change
at their whim or the day of the week)

These HiRez Shuttle pics would have them screaming bloody murder if
they came over the wire as a JPG. Just imagine the audacity of having
to make one of these guys join a multi-part picture. Better yet, if
you could get such a photo across the wire in one part... then they'd
be bitching that "it takes too long" or "it's too big"

Damned if you do...

Rather than staying perched on this soap box, I'll close by pointing
out that this group, as a whole, would be a perfect comparison to the
current crisis in our public education system.

The ones who learn and are willing to do so, must continually slow
down to the speed of those unwilling or incapable of learning. Rather
than having the slow ones work harder and learn more, we continue to
dumb down the group to the lowest denominator. The real ****er are
the calls for a burning at the stake when anyone shows a little
imagination, change or initiative.

ABPA-holes.

That was not his point.
He merely pointed out his personal view that he saw no reason to stray
from JPEG. What is wrong with that?
If anybody else wants to do differently, go right ahead.

(snip)

Herman, sir, J3 did not "stray" from JPGS. I have about 5 gigs of great
shots that (with the exception of one Power-Point file) prove it.

It is the delivery mode of the JPGS that everyone is jumping threw their
asses about.

Most of the gripes are about not having the inclination to learn how to
utilize this mode of delivery of JPGs. Some of the remaining gripes are
about the sheer number of them. Either way, I am inclined to quote the
first black President, and the favorite of many...

"Better put some ice on that."

"Herman" wrote in message
b.home.nl...

"ABLE_1" schreef in bericht
...

Personally I have never seen a reason to stray from jpegs.
They don't carry viruses, they are read by every image viewer
known to man, they can be resized and enhanced by even more,
and they will be the universal standard for years to come.

IMHO, that is............



AMEN!!!!!!!!


So there are still sane people around.
Almost makes you believe there is still hope

Regards,
Herman
Worry no further about the merits or otherwise of this whole affair, I have
received assistance and an answer to my
original question, which has been totally lost in the ensuing melee of
comments. I now know how to open these files
thanks to another user of this site who took the time to undertsand what my
issues were and then has given me the answers.

Phil

"Mitchell Holman" wrote

Personally I have never seen a reason to stray from jpegs.
They don't carry viruses, they are read by every image viewer
known to man, they can be resized and enhanced by even more,
and they will be the universal standard for years to come.

And although it is probably not said enough, thanks for your picture
selections that you post, and thanks for posting them in the manner that you
do.
--
Jim in NC

"Herman" wrote

The problem at this point is that J3 is choking the NG with thousands of
posts.

He isn't chocking _my_ NG. g Not any more, anyway.

It would be mucht better and less irritating if he opened a website with
his pictures and merely posted a link.

Yep, anything would have been better.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in
:


"Mitchell Holman" wrote

Personally I have never seen a reason to stray from jpegs.
They don't carry viruses, they are read by every image viewer
known to man, they can be resized and enhanced by even more,
and they will be the universal standard for years to come.

And although it is probably not said enough, thanks for your picture
selections that you post, and thanks for posting them in the manner that
you do.



Thanks for the feedback. I have been posting since the
dial-up days of the last century, when anything more than a
dozen images was "flooding" and would take so long that your
ISP was likely to cut out on you in mid-post. Ergo the indexes.
They aren't as popular as they used to be, when people really
needed to choose what images to download because of the time
involved. Old habits die hard with some of us............