Two Lock Rule?

Robert M. Gary wrote:
As far as I know only NJ has such a rule. My Champ had a key for the
door and another key for the mags. If yours is the same, you're good to
go.

NJ indeed has the "2-lock rule".

However, in typical NJ fashion, some airport owners have taken it upon
themselves to add two locks to that rule. Our 172 has door and key
locks. That should be enough. It's also in a locked hangar. But they
also demand we use a prop lock -- and if they survey our hangar and find
the airplane without the prop lock installed, they have the right to
kick us out.

I really need to start looking for property in another state...

-Doug

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"Doug Vetter" wrote in message
...
Robert M. Gary wrote:
As far as I know only NJ has such a rule. My Champ had a key for the
door and another key for the mags. If yours is the same, you're good to
go.

NJ indeed has the "2-lock rule".

However, in typical NJ fashion, some airport owners have taken it upon
themselves to add two locks to that rule. Our 172 has door and key locks.
That should be enough. It's also in a locked hangar. But they also
demand we use a prop lock -- and if they survey our hangar and find the
airplane without the prop lock installed, they have the right to kick us
out.

I really need to start looking for property in another state...

-Doug

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Doug Vetter, CFIMEIA

http://www.dvcfi.com
--------------------

Peter Clark wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2005 14:47:42 -0400, T o d d P a t t i s t
wrote:

The airport manager asked me yesterday how I planned to
comply with the upcoming "two lock rule" to protect my 65hp
Champ from being stolen by a terrorist and destroying


Perhaps one of these-like things:

http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl....roduct_id=3570

The Champ I flew didn't have a standard panel-mounted push-pull
throttle,
such as which would fit those kind of throttle locks.
It had a lever-style throttle on the left side cabin wall.

"It is possible to fly without motors, but not without knowledge and skill."
Wilbur Wright


Poor Wilbur has been proven wrong in recent days.

In article , says...


NJ is so damn anal. I left that state 27 years ago and never looked back.
I have flown many hours because of the money I've saved in taxes and
compliance
with anal NJ laws and regulations.

I know, my reposnse is not very helpful.... hate me.
Just had to get it out of my system. )



If you look at those comparison websites, designed to find tha best places to
live, NJ keeps coming up as one of the lowest taxed states, with a high ratio
of quality of services to tax rate.

G Faris

A lock on the door of your hangar and a throttle lock would suffice.
"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 15:49:58 -0400, T o d d P a t t i s t wrote:

My impression from the airport manager was that this
was a new terrorism inspired rule.

close. it was a government inspired rule.

SCNR,

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Greg Farris wrote:
In article , says...


NJ is so damn anal. I left that state 27 years ago and never looked back.
I have flown many hours because of the money I've saved in taxes and

compliance

with anal NJ laws and regulations.

I know, my reposnse is not very helpful.... hate me.
Just had to get it out of my system. )

If you look at those comparison websites, designed to find tha best places to
live, NJ keeps coming up as one of the lowest taxed states, with a high ratio
of quality of services to tax rate.

Interesting. NJ has a 6% sales tax on everything but clothing and a 6.5% income
tax. I'm sure that's low in comparison to some places, but most States are
lower. The license for my baby pickup costs over $75 every year. A driver's
license is more than $25 for 4 years. You will also find that every service
(such as telephone, water, etc.) has a hidden surcharge. The Federal and State
taxes on my phone service cost more than the basic service does. If one were
able to add in the cost of the various kickbacks and other hidden penalties,
you'd see a different picture, though I'd bet NJ would compare very well to the
Chicago area.

Kontiki is also correct about the regulations. You need a permit for just about
anything. The paperwork involved means that someone who moves here from, say,
Tennessee will probably drop a few of their hobbies due to lack of time to get
the necessary licenses.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.

T o d d P a t t i s t wrote:

No door key, no mag key for my Champ (just like the one used
in the bank robbery). I'm in a locked hangar though. My
impression from the airport manager was that this was a new
terrorism inspired rule. I presumed that meant it was
federal, but I suppose it might have been NY state.

Well, if it turns out that you have to comply, check with John Price. He had to
work out something for his L-3. IIRC, it involved some sort of jerry-rig with a
lock he picked up at Home Depot. It locks the door but required no modifications
to the aircraft.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.

1. Card operated gate
2. Hangar door lock
3. Airplane mag switch

Guess I could also lock the airplane door if necesary.
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html#security
Because I fly, I envy no one.

In article iOoie.6695$_f7.2717@trndny01, says...

Interesting. NJ has a 6% sales tax on everything but clothing and a 6.5%
income
tax. I'm sure that's low in comparison to some places, but most States are
lower. The license for my baby pickup costs over $75 every year. A driver's
license is more than $25 for 4 years. You will also find that every service
(such as telephone, water, etc.) has a hidden surcharge. The Federal and
State
taxes on my phone service cost more than the basic service does. If one were
able to add in the cost of the various kickbacks and other hidden penalties,
you'd see a different picture, though I'd bet NJ would compare very well to
the
Chicago area.



Funny - the "best places to live" sites list the income tax at 2.something,
which is one of their strong reasons for giving the state such high marks!
They also rate education and median income highly, as well as - believe it or
not - air and water quality!

G Faris