$640.00 to fill the tanks...

Emily wrote:
Don Tuite wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:43:57 -0500, Emily
wrote:

RST Engineering wrote:

I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at
Sierra Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart
ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a
semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a

Oh, so smart ones don't just hop right into a university out of high
school? That's a bizarre way of thinking, but if it makes the
community college people feel better, it's ok, I guess.


Well, either way, you can graduate with a degree from UC Berkeley, but
one way you saved $40,000. I think that's what Jim meant by
"smarter."


Who says that a person who went to a university for four years paid for
all of it?

Personally, I'm glad I never went to a community college. Way too easy
to not complete a four year degree. And let's face it, most employers
aren't happy with an associates.

That may be true. People lacking self-motivation probably shouldn't go
the community college route. However, those who do are well served by
their self-motivation as evidenced by their later performance at the
university level.

Matt

Emily wrote:

RST Engineering wrote:

Why is it bizarre? Take a look at statewide stats and you will find
that folks transferring out of 2 year institutions into 4 year schools
do better grade point wise than those going straight into 4 year
schools out of high school.

Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't trade my 4 years at San Diego State
for anything, but when somebody asks me to name the best four teachers
I had in college, three of the four come from Grossmost Community
College and one from San Diego State.


Strange. I took a few management classes at the largest community
college in the nation a few years ago - just for kicks, because I had
too much free time. Both instructors were terrible and nowhere near the
caliber I was used to from my college. Not to mention the other
students. I was scared I'd fail a drug test from sitting in the same
room as them.

Large isn't necessarily equal to good. I've attended 7 different
schools at last count from one class taken at a community college to
some fairly well-respected institutions (Penn State, RIT, Alfred
University). The best school I attended was close to a community
college than a university - Penn State's Behrend campus. When I was
there (25 years ago), they were still primarily a two-year feeder
campus for Penn State, even though they did offer a handful of four-year
degrees in areas such as accounting. The instructors there were simply
outstanding and were focused on teaching rather than research.

Matt

In article ,
AES wrote:

I wonder if the final sentence above is true. If you've had any close
encounters with hospital bills lately, you have to be dismayed at what
seem to be the "way up there" costs or charges for every little aspect
of that part of the healthcare system.

I don't know. Is $45,000 too much for ER, surgery (4 hours), and 14 days
in the hospital?

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Emily wrote:

Strange. I took a few management classes at the largest community
college in the nation a few years ago - just for kicks, because I had
too much free time. Both instructors were terrible and nowhere near
the caliber I was used to from my college.


Wow, a sample of two. That means, ah, nothing.

Newps wrote:



Emily wrote:

Strange. I took a few management classes at the largest community
college in the nation a few years ago - just for kicks, because I had
too much free time. Both instructors were terrible and nowhere near
the caliber I was used to from my college.


Wow, a sample of two. That means, ah, nothing.

It means a 100% terrible instructor rate vs. only about a 5% terrible
instructor rate at my university.

In article ,
AES wrote:

In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Show me who qualifies for medicaid and can afford to fly at the same
time.

If you can afford to fly, you are paying for your health care whether
you live in the U.S. or in Europe. In Europe you give the gov't money
to pay for your healthcare, in the U.S. you give the insurance company
money to pay for your healthcare.
In both cases, if you don't have money, the gov't picks up the tab.
-Robert

I wonder if the final sentence above is true. If you've had any close
encounters with hospital bills lately, you have to be dismayed at what
seem to be the "way up there" costs or charges for every little aspect
of that part of the healthcare system. I have to suspect that somehow,
the charges on those who can pay are driven up by the hospital's legal
requirement to provide walk-in care without reimbursement for those who
can't, or won't -- and it shows up in _our_ payments, whether for direct
care or for insurance.

My wife had to be taken to the ER by the squad two weeks ago. They kept
her overnight and released her the next afternoon. We had to go back for
a test Wednesday morning.
The hospital bill was $8000.
Today we received the statement from the insurance company informing us
what they had paid and what the hospital had accepted and how much we
owe.
Insurance paid $3700, we owe $1200 (20% of the total bill).

Right. Of course, in the US, Jet-A (diesel) is just about the same
price, or even a bit higher, than avgas.

Which is, of course, as it should be, without government social
engineering. It's also why Thielert hasn't gained any traction here.

How do you come to that conclusion? Jet fuel is lower on the distillation
scale, and should be easier to distill from oil, and get a bit more per
barrel than Avgas. Add to that economy of scale, and it should be much less
expensive.

Agreed.

I was referring to the British penchant for taxing the crap out of
avgas (the fuel of hte rich) and leaving Jet-A (the fuel of the
proletariat) pretty much alone.

You're right, Jet-A in this country *should* be much cheaper than
avgas.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

AES wrote:
In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:
If you've had any close
encounters with hospital bills lately, you have to be dismayed at what
seem to be the "way up there" costs or charges for every little aspect
of that part of the healthcare system. I have to suspect that somehow,
the charges on those who can pay are driven up by the hospital's legal
requirement to provide walk-in care without reimbursement for those who
can't, or won't -- and it shows up in _our_ payments, whether for direct
care or for insurance.

My point is that if a homeless person in the U.S. walks into a hospitol
and needs expensive emergency care he will not be turned away. The
hospital will provide the care and the gov't (us)will fit the bill.
This even applies to those in the U.S. illegally.

-Robert

On 16 Aug 2006 22:36:37 -0700, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:
I was referring to the British penchant for taxing the crap out of
avgas (the fuel of hte rich) and leaving Jet-A (the fuel of the
proletariat) pretty much alone.

You're right, Jet-A in this country *should* be much cheaper than
avgas.

At one of the airports that I refuel at (T00) when I'm not using
mogas, the current price on 100LL is $3.84 whereas Jet-A is $2.96...
The best price I see currently in Texas is $3.07 for 100LL and $2.39
for Jet-A at EBG... Hell, $2.39 is cheaper than I can buy diesel for
here in Texas... If I had a diesel pickup and lived over there, I
would probably be running Jet-A in it...

Matt Whiting wrote:

Well, it takes money in addition to smarts to attend the expensive schools.

Just like the rest of the world. Europe has expensive private schools
too. Both the U.S. and Europe have public universities that are
excellent and low cost.

-Robert