$640.00 to fill the tanks...

Always been curious what "get a life" is supposed to mean. (I think it
means, "think like ME").

Ok, I have MY "opinion". Since diesel has more BTU's per gallon that
gasoline, my "opinion" is diesel "should" cost MORE than gasoline!!

But the reality is , the MARKET and the LAWS OF CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS,
and a bunch of other complicated factors, set the price and
availability of diesel, not my (or Jay's) precious "opionion".

Morgans wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
ps.com...
Jay Honeck wrote:
You're right, Jet-A in this country *should* be much cheaper than
avgas.

The "expert" on the cost of Jet A vs 100LL has spoken.

Seeing no smiley, I've got to say "get a life." He has a right to an
opinion without a smart *ss crack like that.
--
Jim in NC

Anno v. Heimburg wrote:
Isn't part of the point of a government to do social engineering?

For the governments of countries lacking a large degree of
personal freedoms, yes.

For governments such as exists (or should I say 'used to exist')
in the United States, absolutley not. It has been this lack of
social engineering by government policy that has made the US
an economic superpower in the span of 100 years. The Soviet
Union was an example of the failure of a government dedicated
to the concept of social engineering in as many years.

None the less, it seems we are running headlong toward the same
end.

Ok, I have MY "opinion". Since diesel has more BTU's per gallon that
gasoline, my "opinion" is diesel "should" cost MORE than gasoline!!

Only if BTUs are the only important thing.

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

But the reality is , the MARKET and the LAWS OF CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS,
and a bunch of other complicated factors, set the price and
availability of diesel, not my (or Jay's) precious "opionion".

True. In a perfect world, given the lesser amount of refining
necessary, diesel (and Jet-A) should be cheaper to make, and therefore
cheaper to sell.

Strangely, diesel fuel in my neck of the woods is often MORE expensive
than regular gas. I would presume this is because they sell so much
less of it, but I honestly don't know the reason.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

None the less, it seems we are running headlong toward the same
end.

The lure -- and illusory rewards -- of bribing us with our own money
are far too great for any country to long resist.

If you want to see America's future, all you need to do is visit any
inner city convenience store that sells lottery tickets, right after
the first of the month. It's really quiet pathetic...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

None the less, it seems we are running headlong toward the same
end.


The lure -- and illusory rewards -- of bribing us with our own money
are far too great for any country to long resist.

If you want to see America's future, all you need to do is visit any
inner city convenience store that sells lottery tickets, right after
the first of the month. It's really quiet pathetic...

Exactly. And it is sad to say, but public (government) schools are
doing a fine job of insuring new generations will go forth with
limited understanding of the real power of economic freedom and
just how precious it is to maintain.

Jay Honeck wrote:
Strangely, diesel fuel in my neck of the woods is often MORE expensive
than regular gas. I would presume this is because they sell so much
less of it, but I honestly don't know the reason.

Jay, part of the reason is the additional filtration requirements.
In addition, the (airport) fuel trucks to service it are larger
and more expensive. The fuel hoses are larger.. it (generally)
takes longer (and more effort) to refuel Jet aircraft (Vs. piston
aircraft.) for overwing and of course single point equipment
is more expensive still. Much of the dispensing equipment
is capable of mixing in various additives during the fueling
process... the care and feeding of this post-mixing apparatus
is expensive.


There is also getting to be more and more demand for the stuff...
(for a number of reasons) and where demand is up so goes the price,
often erasing much advantage over gasolene.

For those that want to curse out the peoples of the middleast
because they are making $$$$$$$$ on producing and selling crude
oil I would say this: quit bitching and get busy producing the
stuff yourself and start making money like they are. If you don't
want to do that then shut up and start riding a bike.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Right. Of course, in the US, Jet-A (diesel) is just about the same
price, or even a bit higher, than avgas.

Which is, of course, as it should be, without government social
engineering. It's also why Thielert hasn't gained any traction here.

How do you come to that conclusion? Jet fuel is lower on the
distillation
scale, and should be easier to distill from oil, and get a bit more per
barrel than Avgas. Add to that economy of scale, and it should be much
less
expensive.

Agreed.

I was referring to the British penchant for taxing the crap out of
avgas (the fuel of hte rich) and leaving Jet-A (the fuel of the
proletariat) pretty much alone.

At WVI Jet-A is the fuel of the rich and avgas is the fuel of the
proletariat.

Howard

Exactly. And it is sad to say, but public (government) schools are
doing a fine job of insuring new generations will go forth with
limited understanding of the real power of economic freedom and
just how precious it is to maintain.

Actually -- so far -- the schools in Iowa City have done a pretty good
job of teaching the free-market system to my kids. Of course, this is
done with an undertone of self-consciousness -- as if they are somehow
ashamed to live in a capitalist system -- and there is always the
message that capitalism needs to be reigned in lest it go crazy and
crush the weak and weary.

Luckily, the kids spend many hours each week in the "real world",
working at the hotel. There, they can see life as it really is, in bold
relief -- sometimes in ways that their school teachers could never
dream of...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

15-18 hours!! No wonder you fly. Buy a nice BMW, Audi, or Porsche and you
should be able to halve that.