Your opinions, please!

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Dashi wrote:

Do you know anyone that has been murdered?

I did. I knew three murderers, too.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

I interpreted the question as present tense ... :-)

Peter

Yes, a friend had it happen to him. It was horrible. Obviously not
life threatening but it can really mess up your life. Now that it's
more common, maybe the credit agencies will be more cooperative in
helping to reestablish one's credit rating. You really should take
every precaution.
Dave

Jay Honeck wrote:
We all know the problem with our pilot license numbers. The
name and address of a pilot, his SS number and the exact N-number,
serial number, and address of his airplane, a very valuable tangible
asset, might make easy picking for an identity thief. Am I being
overly cautious, yes.


You know, I hear this ALL THE TIME -- yet, I've never met a single person
who has actually suffered from "identity theft".

As you all know, I use my real name, my real address, my real email address
(well, mostly), and the real name of my business -- thus far, with minimal
hassle. Am I being stupid? Dunno -- but I simply can't bring myself to hide
behind a phony name.

I *really* enjoy the new Visa commercials, with the guy's voice-over on the
little old lady -- they're hilarious and really get the point across about
the risks of identity theft. However, they *are* trying to sell a product,
and (as a result) the cynic in me rises to the fore. I just have to wonder
if this whole "identity theft" thing isn't a product of Madison Avenue, once
again trying to fan the flames of our own paranoia, in an effort to sell us
something?

Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:t9uCb.328993$Dw6.1107274@attbi_s02...
We all know the problem with our pilot license numbers. The
name and address of a pilot, his SS number and the exact N-number,
serial number, and address of his airplane, a very valuable tangible
asset, might make easy picking for an identity thief. Am I being
overly cautious, yes.

You know, I hear this ALL THE TIME -- yet, I've never met a single person
who has actually suffered from "identity theft".

As you all know, I use my real name, my real address, my real email address
(well, mostly), and the real name of my business -- thus far, with minimal
hassle. Am I being stupid? Dunno -- but I simply can't bring myself to hide
behind a phony name.

I *really* enjoy the new Visa commercials, with the guy's voice-over on the
little old lady -- they're hilarious and really get the point across about
the risks of identity theft. However, they *are* trying to sell a product,
and (as a result) the cynic in me rises to the fore. I just have to wonder
if this whole "identity theft" thing isn't a product of Madison Avenue, once
again trying to fan the flames of our own paranoia, in an effort to sell us
something?

Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate?

I've just opened an E-Trade Bank account in your name. It took me 3
minutes. Don't worry, tomorrow I'll close it, I'm one of the good
guys, but in the meantime I could have used that to get a small limit,
secured visa card, and that would establish a mail drop as one of your
legit addresses.

In a month or so, I'd apply for half a dozen credit cards with your
name and ssn, but my mail drop address. I'd use them to buy high
value stuff, like gold, that's easy to sell for cash. Or get a quick
$10k personal loan from Cash Call. I wouldn't buy a car, they're too
easy to trace and you can't get real cash out of them. I might buy an
airplane, fly it down to South America and sell it for 25 cents on the
dollar.

I'm not kidding about the E-Trade account. Check your credit report
in a month, it will be there. I used your real ssn and birthday.

Your SSN and your wife's SSN added together is 792288289

20 years ago you lived at 1562 30th Ave. Apt. 2D, your phone number
was 554-0990. Your wife was living at 2595 N Cramer St, her phone
number was 962-8821. Her name was Udulutch. She was born in June,
1960, in the second week of the month.

You have a business. Your credit is pretty good. If you are in the
open you're a target. You should be checking your credit reports
every 3 months.

WAKE UP!!!! Don't be an idiot. There are 700,000-900,000 cases of
identity theft per year, growing at about 25% per year. Do you know
anyone that's been killed by a drunk driver? Probably not. There are
only 15,000 people killed per year by drunk drivers. That doesn't
mean it's not going to happen.

Guess he told you --- and everyone else. Imagine everything you've
worked for all your life going down the toilet. Here's how it starts,
and this guy doesn't even do it for a living.

On 13 Dec 2003 00:08:33 -0800, (WAKE UP!!!)
wrote:


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Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate?

I've just opened an E-Trade Bank account in your name. It took me 3
minutes. Don't worry, tomorrow I'll close it, I'm one of the good
guys, but in the meantime I could have used that to get a small limit,
secured visa card, and that would establish a mail drop as one of your
legit addresses.

In a month or so, I'd apply for half a dozen credit cards with your
name and ssn, but my mail drop address. I'd use them to buy high
value stuff, like gold, that's easy to sell for cash. Or get a quick
$10k personal loan from Cash Call. I wouldn't buy a car, they're too
easy to trace and you can't get real cash out of them. I might buy an
airplane, fly it down to South America and sell it for 25 cents on the
dollar.

I'm not kidding about the E-Trade account. Check your credit report
in a month, it will be there. I used your real ssn and birthday.

Your SSN and your wife's SSN added together is 792288289

20 years ago you lived at 1562 30th Ave. Apt. 2D, your phone number
was 554-0990. Your wife was living at 2595 N Cramer St, her phone
number was 962-8821. Her name was Udulutch. She was born in June,
1960, in the second week of the month.

You have a business. Your credit is pretty good. If you are in the
open you're a target. You should be checking your credit reports
every 3 months.

WAKE UP!!!! Don't be an idiot. There are 700,000-900,000 cases of
identity theft per year, growing at about 25% per year. Do you know
anyone that's been killed by a drunk driver? Probably not. There are
only 15,000 people killed per year by drunk drivers. That doesn't
mean it's not going to happen.

WAKE UP!!!! Don't be an idiot.

Holy ****! You've convinced me!

Pretty impressive -- especially the part about Mary's maiden name. (NO ONE
can spell her last name correctly -- and you got it! :-)

Don't post it here (of course) but I'd be really curious to know how you
obtained our SS numbers?

(And, BTW, I DO know someone who was killed by a drunk driver.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"WAKE UP!!!" wrote:

..... bunches of info ....

Do you do this sort of research for a living? If so, please contact me by email.
Nothing nefarious, I would simply like to find out if a particular person is
still alive.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Do you do this sort of research for a living? If so, please contact me by
email.
Nothing nefarious, I would simply like to find out if a particular person
is
still alive.

Actually, that's a great idea, George!

Me too! I've been trying to track down a childhood friend for 20 years now,
to no avail.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...
"WAKE UP!!!" wrote:

.... bunches of info ....

Do you do this sort of research for a living? If so, please contact me by email.
Nothing nefarious, I would simply like to find out if a particular person is
still alive.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."


I don't do it for a living, but if it's for a good cause I'll run a
quick search for you for free. My databases aren't perfect, but
they're very good. If I don't come up with anything, it doesn't mean
they're dead, it's one of those "you can't prove a negative" things.
Contact me at the address listed but I'll probably turn it off in a
couple of weeks, since in the 12 hours since I posted I've gotten 145
virus emails there.

Jay, I'd tell you how I got your SSN, but then I'd have to kill you

SSN's are EVERYWHERE, they're easier to get than an unlisted phone
number. By the time I get it, I can't tell where it came from, the
data is blended, matched and combined. I confirmed yours with an old
CD I have from FAA listing all the certified pilots and their ssns.
They don't do it anymore, but I still have the CD.

Mother's maiden names are only a little more secure. Getting the
spelling of your wife's name was automatic, off the databases, but I
have no idea how to say it.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"WAKE UP!!!" wrote:

.... bunches of info ....

Do you do this sort of research for a living? If so, please contact me by
email.
Nothing nefarious, I would simply like to find out if a particular person
is
still alive.

Careful now, you did say that you knew three murderers, want to make it
four? ;-

dashi

WAKEUP - or anyone who knows how to do this,

I'll pay $50 (cash) for a successful search result.

Contact me at
I even have the SSN.

Please use: "$50 rec.aviation search" for the subject line (minus the
quotations) ...I just set the spam filters to let that through.

If I get a few more than one response - I'll give out the info to one person
at a time, with maybe a 7 day timeline, then go to the next person. Sound
reasonable?

Thank you in advance.

--
Montblack
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("WAKE UP!!!" wrote)
interesting info clipped
I've just opened an E-Trade Bank account in your name. It took me 3
minutes. Don't worry, tomorrow I'll close it, I'm one of the good
guys, but in the meantime I could have used that to get a small limit,
secured visa card, and that would establish a mail drop as one of your
legit addresses.