Chrome spinner

On 8-Apr-2004, "Otis Winslow" wrote:

Is it okay to chrome a spinner?

Probably not. But why bother? Simply removing the paint from an aluminum
spinner and polishing the bare metal is relatively easy and inexpensive.
You can even do it yourself, since it's not a control surface. Properly
polished, the bare aluminum will be almost as shiny as chrome. The only
(very minor) negative is that aluminum is more prone to staining, so you
will have to polish a bit more frequently than you would with chrome.

We did this a couple of years ago on our Arrow, with good results. The
whole effort took about one day using a kit we got at OSH.

--
-Elliott Drucker

wrote in message .. .
On 8-Apr-2004, "Otis Winslow" wrote:

Is it okay to chrome a spinner?

Probably not. But why bother? Simply removing the paint from an aluminum
spinner and polishing the bare metal is relatively easy and inexpensive.
You can even do it yourself, since it's not a control surface. Properly
polished, the bare aluminum will be almost as shiny as chrome. The only
(very minor) negative is that aluminum is more prone to staining, so you
will have to polish a bit more frequently than you would with chrome.

We did this a couple of years ago on our Arrow, with good results. The
whole effort took about one day using a kit we got at OSH.

Better yet. Get some good polish and hand rub it to a nice shine.
During the WHOLE process wear gloves so the acids in your skin doesn't
get on the surface. Wrap it in a clean towel and look in the local
phone book under powdercoating. There will be several if ya live in a
decent sized town. Find the one who is the most reasonable. Take it to
him and have them clear powdercoat it.The stuff is bulletproof and
will not alter the metal. Remind the guys doing the work to wear
gloves while handling it too. It should cost somewhere in the
25.00-35.00 dollar range.

Ben Haas. N801BH.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0600, MikeM wrote:

Otis Winslow wrote:
I DID Google it. I didn't come up with much. So it must not be TOO
persistent because lots of searching hasn't turned up much. So instead
of just posting a "NO" .. quote some reference such as an AC or reg or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response.

Otis,

Call your FSDO, and ask them (hint, you wont like the answer)

Call your IA, and ask him (hint, if he's worth a damn, you wont
like his answer)

Do the following Google Groups search:

chrome spinner legal OR crack OR faa OR fsdo OR IA group:rec.aviation.*

(hint, after reading the 43 messages, you wont like the gist of these
postings, either)

So far, the postings in response to your question here have not added
anything that hasn't been posted on this topic since 1995.

Google groups search for "chrome spinner group:rec.aviation.*"
gets 170 hits.

MikeM

With an attitude like that, I say let the ******* chrome his spinner
and take his chances.

Thanks, Stu.

I appreciate being called a *******. For asking a question with
both safety and legality implications. What's this group for if
not to exchange information related to ownership? If someone
asked me a question I would try to help them, not tell them
they're a ******* and have an attitude. I'm sure sorry I didn't
have initial success searching for info and if I offended you
by asking.

OW

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0600, MikeM wrote:

Otis Winslow wrote:
I DID Google it. I didn't come up with much. So it must not be TOO
persistent because lots of searching hasn't turned up much. So instead
of just posting a "NO" .. quote some reference such as an AC or reg or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response.

Otis,

Call your FSDO, and ask them (hint, you wont like the answer)

Call your IA, and ask him (hint, if he's worth a damn, you wont
like his answer)

Do the following Google Groups search:

chrome spinner legal OR crack OR faa OR fsdo OR IA group:rec.aviation.*

(hint, after reading the 43 messages, you wont like the gist of these
postings, either)

So far, the postings in response to your question here have not added
anything that hasn't been posted on this topic since 1995.

Google groups search for "chrome spinner group:rec.aviation.*"
gets 170 hits.

MikeM

With an attitude like that, I say let the ******* chrome his spinner
and take his chances.

Thanks, Mike, for a civil answer. I'm going to talk to my A&P and one
of the FSDO guys based at our airport. My inclination is to remove
it and get a new one.


"Mike Spera" wrote in message
...
Now that I look at it, my answer was a bit short. However, I was
answering back from another poster who said something like "sure it is
O.K. I did it and I'm still alive". I tend to get a bit short with this
type of answer.

Your question had more than a subtle hint that you were asking about
legality under the regs. The other poster took the question as "is it
possible" and added his/her anecdotal evidence that, if they did it and
it did not kill them, it MUST be O.K.

As another poser stated, we did cover this in detail a while back. The
conclusion of many was that is was not legal. Some may have quoted
specific regs., however, several did respond that their A&P or local
FSDO made then REMOVE the thing because they believed them to be illegal.

In this world, you can cry all you want about what is "right" vs. what
is "accepted". What is right only matters if you are prepared to go all
the way and make a court case out of it. Otherwise, what the A&P or FSDO
person tells you is "right".

I believe this issue is what generated all the traffic last time.
Idealists argued that, since there was no specific reg prohibiting
chroming, it MUST be O.K. I believe others pointed out that any airplane
that was not certified with a chrome spinner could not have one chromed
without approval as a modification. Then, when some asked, they were
told "no". There were statements by FAA people as to metallurgic (is
that the right word??) changes that could not be seen but were suspected
of presenting a potential danger.

Good Luck,
Mike

Dave Butler wrote:
Otis Winslow wrote:

I DID Google it. I didn't come up with much. So it must not be TOO
persistent because lots of searching hasn't turned up much. So instead
of just posting a "NO" .. quote some reference such as an AC or reg or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response. The purpose of this
group is to share information related to ownership issues .. not to
simply
give a terse answer and tell owners to look somewhere else.


IF you don't like his advice, just refuse to pay him for it. This is
usenet, man.


The aircraft I bought has a chrome spinner on it. Of the 5 aircraft
I've
owned, none has had a chrome spinner. I have concerns about legality
and safety and so I asked for imformation. The spinner was chromed
11 yrs ago and shows no signs of cracks or other problems. But I am
aware that chroming alters the metal in the spinner.





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With an answer like this;

"quote some reference such as an AC or reg or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response."

I'll call you whatever I think of you at the time. "Ungrateful
*******" was too long to type. If you don't want the pros and cons,
don't post.



On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:50:36 GMT, "Otis Winslow"
wrote:

Thanks, Stu.

I appreciate being called a *******. For asking a question with
both safety and legality implications. What's this group for if
not to exchange information related to ownership? If someone
asked me a question I would try to help them, not tell them
they're a ******* and have an attitude. I'm sure sorry I didn't
have initial success searching for info and if I offended you
by asking.

OW

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0600, MikeM wrote:

Otis Winslow wrote:
I DID Google it. I didn't come up with much. So it must not be TOO
persistent because lots of searching hasn't turned up much. So instead
of just posting a "NO" .. quote some reference such as an AC or reg or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response.

Otis,

Call your FSDO, and ask them (hint, you wont like the answer)

Call your IA, and ask him (hint, if he's worth a damn, you wont
like his answer)

Do the following Google Groups search:

chrome spinner legal OR crack OR faa OR fsdo OR IA group:rec.aviation.*

(hint, after reading the 43 messages, you wont like the gist of these
postings, either)

So far, the postings in response to your question here have not added
anything that hasn't been posted on this topic since 1995.

Google groups search for "chrome spinner group:rec.aviation.*"
gets 170 hits.

MikeM

With an attitude like that, I say let the ******* chrome his spinner
and take his chances.

I'm so happy you like me, Stu.

Remember Hedbergs Bakery?

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
...
With an answer like this;

"quote some reference such as an AC or reg or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response."

I'll call you whatever I think of you at the time. "Ungrateful
*******" was too long to type. If you don't want the pros and cons,
don't post.



On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:50:36 GMT, "Otis Winslow"
wrote:

Thanks, Stu.

I appreciate being called a *******. For asking a question with
both safety and legality implications. What's this group for if
not to exchange information related to ownership? If someone
asked me a question I would try to help them, not tell them
they're a ******* and have an attitude. I'm sure sorry I didn't
have initial success searching for info and if I offended you
by asking.

OW

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0600, MikeM wrote:

Otis Winslow wrote:
I DID Google it. I didn't come up with much. So it must not be TOO
persistent because lots of searching hasn't turned up much. So
instead
of just posting a "NO" .. quote some reference such as an AC or reg
or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response.

Otis,

Call your FSDO, and ask them (hint, you wont like the answer)

Call your IA, and ask him (hint, if he's worth a damn, you wont
like his answer)

Do the following Google Groups search:

chrome spinner legal OR crack OR faa OR fsdo OR IA
group:rec.aviation.*

(hint, after reading the 43 messages, you wont like the gist of these
postings, either)

So far, the postings in response to your question here have not added
anything that hasn't been posted on this topic since 1995.

Google groups search for "chrome spinner group:rec.aviation.*"
gets 170 hits.

MikeM

With an attitude like that, I say let the ******* chrome his spinner
and take his chances.

On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:41:59 GMT, "Otis Winslow"
wrote:

I'm so happy you like me, Stu.

Remember Hedbergs Bakery?

I like you fine! You're a pilot, aren't you? ;-)

Don't recall Hedbergs. Can you give me a clue or is it a personal
joke?


"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
With an answer like this;

"quote some reference such as an AC or reg or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response."

I'll call you whatever I think of you at the time. "Ungrateful
*******" was too long to type. If you don't want the pros and cons,
don't post.



On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:50:36 GMT, "Otis Winslow"
wrote:

Thanks, Stu.

I appreciate being called a *******. For asking a question with
both safety and legality implications. What's this group for if
not to exchange information related to ownership? If someone
asked me a question I would try to help them, not tell them
they're a ******* and have an attitude. I'm sure sorry I didn't
have initial success searching for info and if I offended you
by asking.

OW

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0600, MikeM wrote:

Otis Winslow wrote:
I DID Google it. I didn't come up with much. So it must not be TOO
persistent because lots of searching hasn't turned up much. So
instead
of just posting a "NO" .. quote some reference such as an AC or reg
or
something I can go by .. or don't post a response.

Otis,

Call your FSDO, and ask them (hint, you wont like the answer)

Call your IA, and ask him (hint, if he's worth a damn, you wont
like his answer)

Do the following Google Groups search:

chrome spinner legal OR crack OR faa OR fsdo OR IA
group:rec.aviation.*

(hint, after reading the 43 messages, you wont like the gist of these
postings, either)

So far, the postings in response to your question here have not added
anything that hasn't been posted on this topic since 1995.

Google groups search for "chrome spinner group:rec.aviation.*"
gets 170 hits.

MikeM

With an attitude like that, I say let the ******* chrome his spinner
and take his chances.

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