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Old April 14th 08, 01:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default Ethanol nightmare is here now!

You are lucky you even got a sticker warning.

Snoop around though for a source for E0 unleaded premium. A lot of
states still have that available in some places. You are not the only
one looking for non-ethanol laced fuels.

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Old April 14th 08, 07:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default Ethanol nightmare is here now!

On Apr 10, 1:22 pm, Don Byrer wrote:
????????????????????????????????????

We started seeing those 10% ethanol stickers in the mid 1980's here in
N.E. OH...they're quite prevalent now...

This is NEW in WA?????


In most areas of Washington state one can still find conventional
gasoline - I fill my Grumman with Chevon 92 octane at Everett WA.

Probably due to the climate and wind pattern, metro areas in WA did
not particularly have the air pollution problem back in the days when
ethanol was used merely as a oxygenate in winter blend to reduce CO
emission.

Nowadays ethanol is used primary as a scam to enrich corn farmers and
AG business. Thanks to AOPA lobby in 2005 Washington state has a
relatively sensible ethanol blending law that only requires 2% of
ethanol blend by 2009 measured in overall volumetric basis for each
fuel distributor (and not a per-gallon requirement) - which means the
oil companies will likely meet this state requirement by selling E10
in some areas and leave many areas alone with conventional gasonline
because it's cheaper for them to do it that way, or probably leave
ethanol out of Premium.

Transporting corn ethanol all the way to Seattle from mid-west is
expensive. Maybe that's why they do this at Spokane. The gasoline
supply of Pacific NW on the other hand came from refineries along the
coast with crude oil shipped from Alaska on oil tankers (Remember
Exxon Valdez?).
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Old April 15th 08, 01:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default Ethanol nightmare is here now!

M wrote:


We started seeing those 10% ethanol stickers in the mid 1980's here in
N.E. OH...they're quite prevalent now...

This is NEW in WA?????


In most areas of Washington state one can still find conventional
gasoline - I fill my Grumman with Chevon 92 octane at Everett WA.

Drat! I'm jealous.
Probably due to the climate and wind pattern, metro areas in WA did
not particularly have the air pollution problem back in the days when
ethanol was used merely as a oxygenate in winter blend to reduce CO
emission.

Yep. That's what we had for a decade or so.
Transporting corn ethanol all the way to Seattle from mid-west is
expensive. Maybe that's why they do this at Spokane. The gasoline
supply of Pacific NW on the other hand came from refineries along the
coast with crude oil shipped from Alaska on oil tankers (Remember
Exxon Valdez?).


Our pipelines come from Montana and Canada. In addition some fuel is
trucked from Columbia River barge terminals in the Tri-Cities.

Al
 




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