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Old February 29th 08, 02:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Doug Vetter
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Default Got *that* call today...

Well, the 172 went into annual this Monday. Only 35 hours on the clock
this year (criminal, I know). But I rationalized that number by figuring
there wouldn't be any surprises this week. Hehe. Boy was I wrong.

Yea, I knew going in that we'd have to pull the prop because our hub got
caught by a Hartzell AD. Courtesy of a blue light special from Hartzell
(bless their selfless hearts), the hub was 50% off for a limited time.
Add a reseal + shipping, and we're talking 2.2 AMUs for that alone.

Aside from a few minor issues we figured the annual inspection +
incidentals would run less than 2 AMUs as it usually does, or a bit over
4 AMUs.

And then I got the call.

Cracks in the spar of the horizontal stabilizer. Looks like we'll need
to send it out and have a new spar installed, which means a strip and
repaint so it doesn't look like garbage. He also found cracks in the
flap that, while not as critical, are best addressed at the same time
with new skins. Both parts can share the shipping crate and we'll be
mixing paint anyway...

The IA says the spar cracks are a fairly common issue with 172s. I knew
something like this plagued C150s (there was an AD on it), but regarding
the 172 this was news to me. Has anyone with a 172 or 182 been hit by
this?

If so, was there any means of compliance OTHER than a new spar?

Where did you have the work done?

What did it cost?

Thanks,

Doug
http://www.dvatp.com/
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Old February 29th 08, 02:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Roy Smith
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Default Got *that* call today...

In article ,
Doug Vetter wrote:

The IA says the spar cracks are a fairly common issue with 172s. I knew
something like this plagued C150s (there was an AD on it), but regarding
the 172 this was news to me.


The easiest way to turn a 172 around on the ramp is to push down on the
horizontal stab until the nosewheel comes off the ground, then spin it
around wherever you want it.

It sounds like a great plan until your mechanic tells you your horizontal
stab spar has cracks in it.
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Old February 29th 08, 03:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Default Got *that* call today...

And then I got the call.

Every owner dreads that call. I think this is one main reason I have always
done owner-assisted annuals. It keeps me close to the action, and I don't
have to worry about "the call"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old February 29th 08, 04:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Edward A. Falk
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Default Got *that* call today...

In article ,
Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
Doug Vetter wrote:

The easiest way to turn a 172 around on the ramp is to push down on the
horizontal stab until the nosewheel comes off the ground, then spin it
around wherever you want it.


That's why I was taught to push down on the spine.

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-Ed Falk,
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Old February 29th 08, 11:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Vaughn Simon
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Default Got *that* call today...


"Edward A. Falk" wrote in message
...
That's why I was taught to push down on the spine.


And why I was taught to always use the towbar. I haven't seen anyone push
down on a Cessna's tail in decades.

Vaughn



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Old February 29th 08, 02:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Mark T. Dame
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Default Got *that* call today...

Vaughn Simon wrote:
"Edward A. Falk" wrote in message
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That's why I was taught to push down on the spine.


And why I was taught to always use the towbar. I haven't seen anyone push
down on a Cessna's tail in decades.


When I was in flight training for my private I flew 152s. It was common
practice to push down on the spine to spin it. However it was strictly
prohibited to do on the 172s. Now they prohibit doing it on the 152s as
well because too many people push down too hard smacking the tail into
the ground.


-m
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Old February 29th 08, 04:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default Got *that* call today...

Doug,

Do you have a 180hp or something that uses the cs prop?

For learning, how did they observe the horizontal stab spar cracks?

Looking in from where? Can you see them?

Bill H. Loveland CO


On Feb 28, 7:00*pm, Doug Vetter wrote:
Well, the 172 went into annual this Monday. *Only 35 hours on the clock
this year (criminal, I know). *But I rationalized that number by figuring
there wouldn't be any surprises this week. *Hehe. *Boy was I wrong.

Yea, I knew going in that we'd have to pull the prop because our hub got
caught by a Hartzell AD. *Courtesy of a blue light special from Hartzell
(bless their selfless hearts), the hub was 50% off for a limited time. *
Add a reseal + shipping, and we're talking 2.2 AMUs for that alone.

Aside from a few minor issues we figured the annual inspection +
incidentals would run less than 2 AMUs as it usually does, or a bit over
4 AMUs.

And then I got the call.

Cracks in the spar of the horizontal stabilizer. *Looks like we'll need
to send it out and have a new spar installed, which means a strip and
repaint so it doesn't look like garbage. *He also found cracks in the
flap that, while not as critical, are best addressed at the same time
with new skins. *Both parts can share the shipping crate and we'll be
mixing paint anyway...

The IA says the spar cracks are a fairly common issue with 172s. *I knew




something like this plagued C150s (there was an AD on it), but regarding
the 172 this was news to me. *Has anyone with a 172 or 182 been hit by
this? *

If so, was there any means of compliance OTHER than a new spar? *

Where did you have the work done?

What did it cost?

Thanks,

Doughttp://www.dvatp.com/


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Old February 29th 08, 05:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Marco Leon[_5_]
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Default Got *that* call today...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:5gLxj.54596$yE1.25832@attbi_s21...
And then I got the call.


Every owner dreads that call. I think this is one main reason I have
always done owner-assisted annuals. It keeps me close to the action, and
I don't have to worry about "the call"...


So I guess for you Jay, it's a tap on the shoulder. "Umm Jay? Take a look at
this..."

Same damage to the wallet, no?

Marco


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Old February 29th 08, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ross
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Default Got *that* call today...

Doug Vetter wrote:
Well, the 172 went into annual this Monday. Only 35 hours on the clock
this year (criminal, I know). But I rationalized that number by figuring
there wouldn't be any surprises this week. Hehe. Boy was I wrong.

Yea, I knew going in that we'd have to pull the prop because our hub got
caught by a Hartzell AD. Courtesy of a blue light special from Hartzell
(bless their selfless hearts), the hub was 50% off for a limited time.
Add a reseal + shipping, and we're talking 2.2 AMUs for that alone.

Aside from a few minor issues we figured the annual inspection +
incidentals would run less than 2 AMUs as it usually does, or a bit over
4 AMUs.

And then I got the call.

Cracks in the spar of the horizontal stabilizer. Looks like we'll need
to send it out and have a new spar installed, which means a strip and
repaint so it doesn't look like garbage. He also found cracks in the
flap that, while not as critical, are best addressed at the same time
with new skins. Both parts can share the shipping crate and we'll be
mixing paint anyway...

The IA says the spar cracks are a fairly common issue with 172s. I knew
something like this plagued C150s (there was an AD on it), but regarding
the 172 this was news to me. Has anyone with a 172 or 182 been hit by
this?

If so, was there any means of compliance OTHER than a new spar?

Where did you have the work done?

What did it cost?

Thanks,

Doug
http://www.dvatp.com/


I have a 172 with a 360 hp lycoming. Where are the cracks and how did he
find them? I have not heard of this.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old February 29th 08, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ross
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Default Got *that* call today...

Ross wrote:

Doug Vetter wrote:

Well, the 172 went into annual this Monday. Only 35 hours on the
clock this year (criminal, I know). But I rationalized that number by
figuring there wouldn't be any surprises this week. Hehe. Boy was I
wrong.

Yea, I knew going in that we'd have to pull the prop because our hub
got caught by a Hartzell AD. Courtesy of a blue light special from
Hartzell (bless their selfless hearts), the hub was 50% off for a
limited time. Add a reseal + shipping, and we're talking 2.2 AMUs for
that alone.

Aside from a few minor issues we figured the annual inspection +
incidentals would run less than 2 AMUs as it usually does, or a bit
over 4 AMUs.

And then I got the call.

Cracks in the spar of the horizontal stabilizer. Looks like we'll
need to send it out and have a new spar installed, which means a strip
and repaint so it doesn't look like garbage. He also found cracks in
the flap that, while not as critical, are best addressed at the same
time with new skins. Both parts can share the shipping crate and
we'll be mixing paint anyway...

The IA says the spar cracks are a fairly common issue with 172s. I
knew something like this plagued C150s (there was an AD on it), but
regarding the 172 this was news to me. Has anyone with a 172 or 182
been hit by this?
If so, was there any means of compliance OTHER than a new spar?
Where did you have the work done?

What did it cost?

Thanks,

Doug
http://www.dvatp.com/



I have a 172 with a 360 hp lycoming. Where are the cracks and how did he
find them? I have not heard of this.


Let's make that a 180 hp / O-360 Lycoming! With that engine I should
have cracks...

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
 




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