A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Aerobatics
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Questions about aerobatics



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old August 8th 05, 10:26 PM
Ghazan Haider
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Questions about aerobatics

These should be in the FAQ:

(1) Can a PPL do aerobatics? If another certification is required what
are the hourly flight minimums in an aero aircraft?

(2) What is the difference between the wing-on-top aerobats like the
Decathlon and the low-wing types like Extra 300 and Cap-232?

(3) Where can I rent a Cap 231/232/10?

(4) Are there larger aerobatic airplanes that can carry say 3 or 5
passengers?

(5) Are there any jet aerobatic aircraft? If so, how are they
different?

(6) Can a defanged F-16 be classified as an aerobat? Is there a similar
aircraft?

(7) Can you fly around an aerobatic airplane like other airplanes
between normal airports and do aerobatics anywhere you can fly normal
airplanes (given youre above the minimum altitude)? Can you do
aerobatics over superbowl?

Informed answers will be appreciated... and TIA

Ads
  #2  
Old August 9th 05, 07:00 AM
ShawnD2112
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Ghazan Haider" wrote in message
oups.com...
These should be in the FAQ:

(1) Can a PPL do aerobatics? If another certification is required what
are the hourly flight minimums in an aero aircraft?

Yes, a PPL can do aerobatics and no additional ratings or licenses are
required. It's not a good idea to do it without proper training from a
qualified instructor and you have to use an airplane that is certified for
aerobatics. Aerobatics put stresses on aircraft that normal A to B flying
doesn't and, therefore need to have additional structural strength.

(2) What is the difference between the wing-on-top aerobats like the
Decathlon and the low-wing types like Extra 300 and Cap-232?

Performance based on the aircraft, but there's no real difference between
high and low wing until you get into the higher end. The ultimate aerobatic
aircraft for over 20 years was the Pitts Special biplane, but it was
eclipsed in performance in the early 80s by monoplane designs like Sukhois
and Extras. Some models of Su and Extra have the wing mounted mid-fuselage
rather than high or low so that it is mounted on the centerline of the
airplane for sharper performance. The big limiters for an airplane like the
Decathalon is it's engine power and the amount of drag on the fuselage and
wing struts.

(3) Where can I rent a Cap 231/232/10?

Depends on where you live.

(4) Are there larger aerobatic airplanes that can carry say 3 or 5
passengers?

The Yak-18 is a 4 place tourer that is cleared for aerobatics but I don't
know if you can carry passengers while doing them. Others here may know the
airplane better than I do.

(5) Are there any jet aerobatic aircraft? If so, how are they
different?

Most military trainers and all fighters are, by definition, aerobatic. They
are different in that they are faster and require more sky for their
maneuvers, plus they cannot do some of the gyroscopic maneuvers that a
propellor-driven airplane can do. Most are also limited in some maneuvers
because it might cause reverse flow into the engine (tailslides, for
instance)

(6) Can a defanged F-16 be classified as an aerobat? Is there a similar
aircraft?

Not sure what you're after here but the F-16 is one of the most highly
maneuverable aircraft in the world, but it still can't do some things a
Pitts can do.

(7) Can you fly around an aerobatic airplane like other airplanes
between normal airports and do aerobatics anywhere you can fly normal
airplanes (given youre above the minimum altitude)? Can you do
aerobatics over superbowl?

You can fly aerobatic airplanes cross-country (after all, you have to be
able to get to competitions and airshows). In fact, I and 6 mates just
spent the weekend flying from London to Dijon to Lille and back. You can do
aerobatics in any uncontrolled airspace (at least in the US and the UK) but
there are restrictions about doing them over built-up and populated areas
and there are sensible altitude restrictions. You can't do aerobatics over
a crowd, like the Superbowl, unless you have a display authorization from
the FAA and the organizers have cleared the aerobatic display with the FAA.
Same goes for the UK.

Informed answers will be appreciated... and TIA

Hope this helped.

Shawn


  #3  
Old August 9th 05, 10:06 PM
Ghazan Haider
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Hope this helped.

Sure did. Thanks.

(3) Where can I rent a Cap 231/232/10?

Depends on where you live.


Toronto. Do they rent these or the extra 300 ANYWHERE in N America, or
preferably Canada?

What aircraft did you do the X-C in?

  #4  
Old August 10th 05, 06:52 AM
ShawnD2112
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Sure, you can rent Extras and Caps for instruction; I don't know about
renting them solo. I think if you Google something like Aerobatic
Instruction, you'll come up with something.

We did our cross country in Pitts Specials, mine specifically is a Pitts
S-1D.

Shawn
"Ghazan Haider" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hope this helped.


Sure did. Thanks.

(3) Where can I rent a Cap 231/232/10?

Depends on where you live.


Toronto. Do they rent these or the extra 300 ANYWHERE in N America, or
preferably Canada?

What aircraft did you do the X-C in?



  #5  
Old August 24th 05, 06:28 AM
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

If you are ever in California see Attitude Aviation in Livermore.

They have an Extra 200, Grob 115, Pitts, Decatholon, and a T6. The
owner is a retired U2 Air Force Pilot.

They specialize in aerobatics and unusual attitude training.

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
rec.aviation.aerobatics FAQ Dr. Guenther Eichhorn Aerobatics 0 January 1st 05 08:29 AM
rec.aviation.aerobatics FAQ Dr. Guenther Eichhorn Aerobatics 0 February 1st 04 08:27 AM
rec.aviation.aerobatics FAQ Dr. Guenther Eichhorn Aerobatics 0 November 1st 03 07:27 AM
rec.aviation.aerobatics FAQ Dr. Guenther Eichhorn Aerobatics 0 October 1st 03 07:27 AM
rec.aviation.aerobatics FAQ Dr. Guenther Eichhorn Aerobatics 0 September 1st 03 07:27 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2017 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.