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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
"Tiger" wrote in message ... La N wrote: "eatfastnoodle" wrote in message ... On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote: "Tiger" wrote in message ... Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe drops.... Yahoo! News Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report 2 hours, 56 minutes ago Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site, citing government officials and a member of his circle. Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows interviews with Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against America is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in his own country. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next. - nilita I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out of office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on. **************** Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.? - nilita Dropping bombs on non Talibans has not won many hearts & minds for a start.... True enough. Many faux pas committed. Even *moi* as a canuckistanian sillyvillain has had to say "oh oh" more than a few times when watching CNN. I can truly understand why Americans are seen as "terrorists" in some parts of the world. - nilita |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
On Aug 14, 10:41*pm, "La N" wrote:
"eatfastnoodle" wrote in message ... On Aug 14, 10:30 pm, "La N" wrote: "eatfastnoodle" wrote in message .... On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote: "Tiger" wrote in message ... Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe drops.... Yahoo! News Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report 2 hours, 56 minutes ago Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site, citing government officials and a member of his circle. Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows interviews with Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against America is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in his own country. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next. - nilita I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out of office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on. **************** Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.? - nilita You do know Pakistan is a Islamic country, you do know Muslim around the world call each other brother. You do know a good chunk, if not the majority of Muslims, consider the "war on terror" is just a disguise for the "war on Islam". You do know America abandoned Pakistan and left Pakistan in the dust more than a few times. And that's the problems America have for Muslims. Even in Europe and Canada, America could only be described toxic over last few years, I suppose you know the few European leaders lost their jobs at least partially because of their close association with America. Add it up. You will know. ****************************************** "Countries don't have friends; they have allies". - nilita well, I seriously don't know what to say. |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
"Tiger" wrote in message ... This is something the world does not need right now. Musharraf was a bad guy, but at least a stable bad guy on our side. What next???? Is a very good question for the region. Stable! On our side! Look, he was a military dictator who sponsors Islamic terror on a huge scale. The training camps that are directed against India produced both sets of London bombers, the gang that went 'bang' and the gang that went 'phut'. He's one of the bad guys who managed, like a couple of others, to fool the US into thinking he was on their side. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
"La N" wrote in message news:lL6pk.7156$%b7.6619@edtnps82... "eatfastnoodle" wrote in message ... On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote: "Tiger" wrote in message ... Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe drops.... Yahoo! News Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report 2 hours, 56 minutes ago Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site, citing government officials and a member of his circle. Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows interviews with Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against America is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in his own country. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next. - nilita I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out of office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on. **************** Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.? Because the US Air Force keeps blowing up weddings there by mistake... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:07:34 -0400, Tiger
wrote: Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site, citing government officials and a member of his circle. The consequence will be a power struggle between the two "democratic" blocs, both of which are based on the two principal and antagonistic feudal land owning clans. The government cannot function. The country decends into chaos and bankruptcy that no amount of American aid will be able to reverse. Either the Pakistani Army takes over again or the Taliban does. With that goes Afghanistan and Indian stability. 1. Taliban win a fight - and settle scores When the Pakistani military launched operations against Taliban and al-Qaeda militants in Bajaur Agency, their opponents were more than ready, having been briefed by well-placed informants. Under the unified command of radical leader Baitullah Mehsud, the militants repulsed the offensive and are already planning retaliatory attacks in other parts of the country. And on Wednesday, Baitullah settled a score with one of Islamabad's last remaining "precious assets". - Syed Saleem Shahzad (Aug 13, '08) Full article in http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH14Df01.html 2. India-Pakistan relations in free fall The Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir is back on a razor's edge, with huge Muslim protests and a Hindu backlash stoking violence. Pakistan has internationalized the issue, just as Delhi works with the United States to pressure Islamabad over its commitment to the "war on terror". The peace process between India and Pakistan is on hold, and given the volatility of the political situation in both countries, Kashmir will continue to burn. - M K Bhadrakumar (Aug 14, '08) Full article in http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH15Df01.html |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
Dropping bombs on non Talibans has not won many hearts & minds for a
start.... It's more likely the expression of frustrations in failing societies that you're getting. I'm sure 99% of Pakistanis still want that green card. My father's neighborhood was often visited by 8th AF B-17s that were going after railway hubs, resulting in some civilian casualties on the ground. It never was too much of an issue, rather, some locals with balls would themselves contribute to even more destructions. It's not a matter of hearts and minds. A shared cause requires all parties to benefit, and if only measued by the amount of cash handed out to some tribes, it's a bad start. |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
wrote in message ... I'm sure 99% of Pakistanis still want that green card. Somehow I doubt that. You do know that there are over 170 million Pakistanis... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
eatfastnoodle wrote:
On Aug 14, 9:16Â*pm, "La N" wrote: "Tiger" wrote in message ... Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe drops.... Yahoo! News Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report 2 hours, 56 minutes ago Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site, citing government officials and a member of his circle. Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows interviews with Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against America is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in his own country. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next. - nilita I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out of office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on. Probably has more to do with Mushareff being hated by the ISI. (Pakistan's version of CIA/KGB/MI-5 and 6) Those guys are the nastiest stripe of Islamic fundamentalist, and are the folks who gave us both the Taliban and Al 'Qeda. Taliban Afghanistan is a classic example of an ISI "Pakistani expansion" op. Find some bunch of nasties, pump them up with weapons and cash, and send them into a "disputed area" to stir up trouble so that the Pakistani military can rush in to "save their Muslim Brothers" - basically a re-run of Opewration Grand Slam in 1965, which ended up with Pakistan getting thrashed by India. The will of the people doesn't count in Pakistan. The ambitions of the factions, including ruling and expanding the Islamic world, do. -- Pete Stickney Any plan where you lose you hat is a bad plan |
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Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president
"Zombywoof" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:37:42 +0100, "William Black" wrote: "La N" wrote in message news:lL6pk.7156$%b7.6619@edtnps82... "eatfastnoodle" wrote in message ... On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote: "Tiger" wrote in message ... Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe drops.... Yahoo! News Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report 2 hours, 56 minutes ago Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site, citing government officials and a member of his circle. Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows interviews with Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against America is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in his own country. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next. - nilita I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out of office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on. **************** Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.? Because the US Air Force keeps blowing up weddings there by mistake... Funny thing about bombs, once released they sorta go where they are going to go. Also, if it wasn't a tradition to blast away with your AK @ Weddings I suspect there might be less of them bombed. -- Oh, tell me about it! I think the best thing to do would be to invade those wacky Muslim countries and force them to change their customs and culture! - nilita |
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