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  #21  
Old August 16th 08, 04:42 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
La N
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president


"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article afrpk.7555$%b7.4736@edtnps82,
says...

"Zombywoof" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:37:42 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:


"La N" wrote in message
news:lL6pk.7156$%b7.6619@edtnps82...

"eatfastnoodle" wrote in message
...
On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote:
"Tiger" wrote in message

...

Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe
drops....

Yahoo! News

Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report

2 hours, 56 minutes ago

Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face
impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web
site,
citing government officials and a member of his circle.

Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows
interviews
with
Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against
America
is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in
his
own
country.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.

- nilita

I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated
because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in
Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his
countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out
of
office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't
seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on.

****************

Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.?


Because the US Air Force keeps blowing up weddings there by mistake...

Funny thing about bombs, once released they sorta go where they are
going to go.

Also, if it wasn't a tradition to blast away with your AK @ Weddings I
suspect there might be less of them bombed.
--


Oh, tell me about it! I think the best thing to do would be to invade
those
wacky Muslim countries and force them to change their customs and
culture!


That's interesting.
I recall back a during the 1990's there were calls about how terrible
the Taliban were in thier treatment of women.


And that has to do with my tongue-in-cheek comment ... what .....?

But, to fine tune it for you, Tanky, here was my implication. Wolfie was
blaming the innocent victims for being bombed by the U.S., because it is
their custom to shoot AKs airwards at weddings. Blaming the victims and
their tribal wedding customs is not going to win you hearts and minds.

- nilita


  #22  
Old August 16th 08, 04:55 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
tankfixer
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president

In article q0spk.7608$%b7.6765@edtnps82,
says...

"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article afrpk.7555$%b7.4736@edtnps82,

says...

"Zombywoof" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:37:42 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:


"La N" wrote in message
news:lL6pk.7156$%b7.6619@edtnps82...

"eatfastnoodle" wrote in message
...
On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote:
"Tiger" wrote in message

...

Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe
drops....

Yahoo! News

Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report

2 hours, 56 minutes ago

Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face
impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web
site,
citing government officials and a member of his circle.

Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows
interviews
with
Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against
America
is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in
his
own
country.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.

- nilita

I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated
because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in
Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his
countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out
of
office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't
seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on.

****************

Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.?


Because the US Air Force keeps blowing up weddings there by mistake...

Funny thing about bombs, once released they sorta go where they are
going to go.

Also, if it wasn't a tradition to blast away with your AK @ Weddings I
suspect there might be less of them bombed.
--

Oh, tell me about it! I think the best thing to do would be to invade
those
wacky Muslim countries and force them to change their customs and
culture!


That's interesting.
I recall back a during the 1990's there were calls about how terrible
the Taliban were in thier treatment of women.


And that has to do with my tongue-in-cheek comment ... what .....?


some of those complaining seemed to be acting like we should go stop
them,



But, to fine tune it for you, Tanky, here was my implication. Wolfie was
blaming the innocent victims for being bombed by the U.S., because it is
their custom to shoot AKs airwards at weddings. Blaming the victims and
their tribal wedding customs is not going to win you hearts and minds.


Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?


--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.
  #24  
Old August 16th 08, 05:16 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
tankfixer
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president

In article 8gspk.7620$%b7.5352@edtnps82,
says...

"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article q0spk.7608$%b7.6765@edtnps82,



But, to fine tune it for you, Tanky, here was my implication. Wolfie was
blaming the innocent victims for being bombed by the U.S., because it is
their custom to shoot AKs airwards at weddings. Blaming the victims and
their tribal wedding customs is not going to win you hearts and minds.


Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?


You're right, Tanky, and I'm wrong. The Pakistanis understand all this
friendly fire business and love the U.S. to pieces.


Hey I don't care if you don't want to hear it.

More rational an explanation than the fellow who want''s to claim it
policy to go around shooting up weddings.




--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.
  #25  
Old August 16th 08, 02:19 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
William Black[_1_]
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president


"Zombywoof" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:37:42 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:


"La N" wrote in message
news:lL6pk.7156$%b7.6619@edtnps82...

"eatfastnoodle" wrote in message
...
On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote:
"Tiger" wrote in message

...

Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe
drops....

Yahoo! News

Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report

2 hours, 56 minutes ago

Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face
impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site,
citing government officials and a member of his circle.

Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows interviews
with
Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against
America
is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in his
own
country.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.

- nilita

I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated
because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in
Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his
countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out of
office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't
seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on.

****************

Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.?


Because the US Air Force keeps blowing up weddings there by mistake...

Funny thing about bombs, once released they sorta go where they are
going to go.

Also, if it wasn't a tradition to blast away with your AK @ Weddings I
suspect there might be less of them bombed.


Undoubtedly.

You are displaying the legendary contempt and ignorance for other cultures
often shown by your countrymen when travelling abroad.

It's not 'quaint', it's how people live.

If you are dropping bombs on people because of their lifestyle you're going
to lose.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #26  
Old August 16th 08, 02:22 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
William Black[_1_]
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president


"tankfixer" wrote in message
...

Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?


If you're dropping bombs on weddings the implication is thst there's nobody
on the ground shouting 'don't shoot, it's a wedding'.

In that case they're not insurgents, they're the local government...
..
--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #27  
Old August 16th 08, 02:24 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
William Black[_1_]
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president


"Zombywoof" wrote in message
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Perhaps one day they will simply Nuke each other & be done with it.


Except the Pakistanis can't hit anything south of Delhi.

Which means that they can't hit the huge Indian bases in Maharashtra and
Goa, which means they're stuffed, and, chances are, India gets
reunified...


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




  #29  
Old August 16th 08, 05:22 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
tankfixer
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president

In article ,
says...

"Zombywoof" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:37:42 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:


"La N" wrote in message
news:lL6pk.7156$%b7.6619@edtnps82...

"eatfastnoodle" wrote in message
...
On Aug 14, 9:16 pm, "La N" wrote:
"Tiger" wrote in message

...

Just when the world is watching something else, the other shoe
drops....

Yahoo! News

Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president: report

2 hours, 56 minutes ago

Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face
impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site,
citing government officials and a member of his circle.

Just yesterday, I believe, I was watching on some news shows interviews
with
Pakistanis who say that the hatred that Pakistanis have had against
America
is because of the US support of Musharraf who is very unpopular in his
own
country.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.

- nilita

I believe it's more of the other way around. Musharraf is hated
because of his alliance with US. Blair used to be hottie NO.1 in
Britain until he became Bush's poodle NO.1 in the eyes of his
countrymen. The former Spanish prime minister got himself voted out of
office because he was seen too close to the US. I suppose you don't
seriously believe US is hated because of Musharraf? I mean, come on.

****************

Okay, you tell me .... why *do* the Pakistanis hate the U.S.?


Because the US Air Force keeps blowing up weddings there by mistake...

Funny thing about bombs, once released they sorta go where they are
going to go.

Also, if it wasn't a tradition to blast away with your AK @ Weddings I
suspect there might be less of them bombed.


Undoubtedly.

You are displaying the legendary contempt and ignorance for other cultures
often shown by your countrymen when travelling abroad.


As opposed to the understanding and acceptance the English show...


It's not 'quaint', it's how people live.

If you are dropping bombs on people because of their lifestyle you're going
to lose.





--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.
 




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