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"Vaughn" wrote in message
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I will never forget shortly after I traded my Honda 305 for an Earles-fork BMW. I went tearing down the road
following my friends. When we came to the Interstate, they all gracefully took the 45 degree turn onto the on-ramp
while I (using the techniques learned from the sprightly little Honda) only managed about 22 degrees...

Vaughn WB4UHB

A Honda 305 Dream? Wow! That brings back memories.... from an ex Honda 350 pilot. When I was about 14 or 15 I
thought these were huge, powerful bikes.

Joe Schneider
8437R



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"Dave S" wrote in message nk.net...

The SQ2000 guy was flying a rotary (mazda derivative) engine that had what the rotary community believes was an
intermittent fuel supply program and was in flight test at the time. The aircraft had made one dead-stick due to
what the community assumed was a vapor lock. This was a fairly low altitude turn back and landing on-field but
off-runway. After some re-work on the fuel system he went up again, and on one of the subsequent flights weeks
later lost power very low, and tried to make another low turn back to the runway. He ended up in trees.

The rotary powered aircraft community participated in both the NTSB investigation and afterwards several purchased
the airframe from the widow and did additional information gathering. Nothing definitive was determined from a
cause standpoint, but one of the fuel injectors (which was used, not new) was found to be faulty from a flow
standpoint.

Dave S

It makes me feel bad that I can't recall his name. I tried a Google search of the newsgroup archives and didn't find
it.

Joe Schneider
8437R



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"Jean-Paul Roy" wrote in message
. ..
There are only about 5% of peoples in the parade (flying and builders
pilots).

Another 15% standing by the runway and watching the parade ( sometime
commenting and/or criticizing).

And the rest (80%) don't even know there is a parade.

Jean-Paul


I imagine the oblivious 80% don't even realize there IS anything
happening outside of Hollywood and Hip-Hop. Sad, really.

Harold
KD5SAK

Vaughn wrote:

Actually, the 180 degree unpowered return from takeoff is a pretty
constant
and well-known killer of pilots. The statics say it is much better to
crash
straight ahead under control than to stall-spin-crash. Gliders are a
bit of a
different story. I am a glider CFI and we actually teach 180 degree
returns
from 400 feet.

My question would be why can't powered pilots be taught the same thing.
Granted they don't face the same situation on such a regular basis as
the glider pilot, but as the group is discussing, it would be a valuable
skill.

Steve

kd5sak wrote:
"Al" wrote in message
...

I was tempted once, but the temptation went away with the
altitude...quickly.

What really amazed me was how fast the altitude and airspeed went away.
When the thing first quit, I would have sworn I could not get down to my
departure runway before going off the end. I was wrong. Wrong by over a
thousand feet.

Al CFIAMI



I'm beginning to be glad the wife would'nt let me buy a kitplane when I
first retired
10 years ago. You guys have some real interesting stories to tell. Hmmm,
someone should start an aviation close calls recounting group.

Harold
KD5SAK


A good share of these stories are about factory built certified
aircraft. Most kitbuilt aircraft now days are very safe.

Jerry

"Jerry Springer" wrote in message
. ..
kd5sak wrote:
"Al" wrote in message
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A good share of these stories are about factory built certified aircraft.
Most kitbuilt aircraft now days are very safe.

Jerry


I'm sure they are all safe, unless something breaks or the pilot makes a
mistake.
I've always maintained my autos, tractors, and motorcyles well and never had
a serious
mechanical malfunction. Regarding the likelihood of a personal mistake,
though, now that
gives me pause for thought. The phrase "occasional lapse in judgement", if
looked up in the Encyclopedia, might just have my picture beside it.
Example- Once I tried to climb a curb with a fairly large SP-370 Suzuki, at
a little too fast and at slightly too great an angle.
I didn't previously realize that one COULD barrel roll a motorcycle.(G)
Fortunately, the earth
upon which I landed was relatively soft, only my ego was bruised.

Harold
KD5SAK

There's a difference between a glider with a 30:1 L/D and a Cessna with
9:1. Doing a 180 in a glider from 400' is like doing it in a Cessna
from 1200'.

"Jerry Springer" wrote:

A good share of these stories are about factory built certified
aircraft. Most kitbuilt aircraft now days are very safe.

What do you mean--in hard numbers--by "very safe," and what evidence do
you have to back up your assertion?

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

A good share of these stories are about factory built certified
aircraft. Most kitbuilt aircraft now days are very safe.

The majority of problems with homebuilts occur within the FAA designated
testing phase and are fuel system related (getting the fuel from the
tank to the engine).

In article ,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:

In any event, we climbed to a little more than 350 feet before I pulled the
power to idle; and promptly began my turn back tothe runway.

Idle thrust is still quite a bit of applied power.
Instead of pulling the throttle (air), pull the mixture (gas).
This will give you a windmilling prop with all the associated drag.
When you are ready to restore power, push the mixture back in.
Try it and see how your results change.