Low towing thought

Nyal Williams wrote:
Ah, well, we all write hastily and in something of
a short hand.

I guess some of us old men sound dogmatic and others just sound plain
grumpy. My apologies.

GC

On Mar 11, 12:45 pm, Nyal Williams
The student can be told that anywhere in this box
is a normal place to be

I think some tug pilots believe this too. It probably explains why
some of them refuse to turn in response to the glider maintaining high
left or high right tow position.


Andy

I should have said 'safe' instead of 'normal.' But
to respond to the comment, I have been told by tow
pilots at more than one site that they don't really
feel a tug to the left or right and don't notice it
unless they see it in a mirror.

The tow pilots at one commercial operation insisted
that those commands were invented when tow planes were
souped up Cubs and that they are too subtle for Pawnees.
I'm not a tow pilot and I have no opinion on this.

I think we have tugged this subject about every place
it can go.

At 15:06 12 March 2007, Andy wrote:
On Mar 11, 12:45 pm, Nyal Williams
The student can be told that anywhere in this box
is a normal place to be

I think some tug pilots believe this too. It probably
explains why
some of them refuse to turn in response to the glider
maintaining high
left or high right tow position.


Andy

On Mar 12, 11:03 am, "Andy" wrote:
On Mar 11, 12:45 pm, Nyal Williams

The student can be told that anywhere in this box
is a normal place to be

I think some tug pilots believe this too. It probably explains why
some of them refuse to turn in response to the glider maintaining high
left or high right tow position.

Andy

The way some pilots fly tow, they have to be persistent to get my
attention, or reach the limits of my rudder pedals.

Todd Smith
"3S"

On Mar 12, 10:04 am, "toad" wrote:
The way some pilots fly tow, they have to be persistent to get my
attention, or reach the limits of my rudder pedals.

I was once hanging out at about a 45 deg angle to the tug with half
airbrake and looking into the tug cockpit through the side window. I
held the position for about half a minute and he still refused to
turn. At that point I was high enough to release and make my own way
to the gaggle. That tug pilot was more persistant than I cared to be.


Andy

Nyal Williams wrote:
I should have said 'safe' instead of 'normal.' But
to respond to the comment, I have been told by tow
pilots at more than one site that they don't really
feel a tug to the left or right and don't notice it
unless they see it in a mirror.

The tow pilots at one commercial operation insisted
that those commands were invented when tow planes were
souped up Cubs and that they are too subtle for Pawnees.
I'm not a tow pilot and I have no opinion on this.

Depends on how committed is the glider pilot to getting the tow
pilot's attention. A Pawnee will definitely be displaced in yaw by a
determined glider pilot, especially one who is a determinedly
ham-fisted student in a 2-33.

Perhaps these tow pilots too whom you spoke were blessed with very
shy or very polished glider pilots.


Jack