Call signs

In a previous article, Newps said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
Well, they care enough about the speed differences between a Warrior and a
Dakota that they changed them all from PA-28s to P28As and P28Bs
respectively.
They being center guys. 20 knots to a tower controller is trivial.

I'm not disputing you, but I should point out that our club's Dakota is a
good 30-40 knots faster than our Warrior.


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buttman wrote:

When I used to fly Cessna 152's and 172's, I'd always just say "Cessna
12345...". Now that I fly Piper Warriors, I began using "Piper
12345...", but then I realized no one else says just "Piper", they say
"Seneca 12345", or "Twin Comanche 12345...", so I began using the
callsign "Warrior 12345..." to fit in with the rest. This makes more
sense, considering the point of putting your aircraft type before your
tail number is to specify what you are. If you just say "Cessna", you
don't know if its a Citation X, or a 140, just that it's a Cessna. And
you'd think with all the 172s in existance I'd come across a single
instance of a pilot using "Skyhawk" in their call sign, but I've yet to
witness one.

I've noticed that also, and have never understood why for sure, but I
think it may be related to many Cessna's using a number for the model
rather than a name. When I owned a 182 I always used Skylane in the
call sign and most controllers responded in kind, but some would reply
using Cessna.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
I've noticed that also, and have never understood why for sure, but I
think it may be related to many Cessna's using a number for the model
rather than a name. When I owned a 182 I always used Skylane in the
call sign and most controllers responded in kind, but some would reply
using Cessna.


I always used "Cherokee" for Piper singles but the model name for Piper twins.
Cessnas were either "Cessna" or "Twin Cessna". Beech singles were called
"Beech" but I used the model name for Beech twins. No consistency, I guess.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Maybe because Cherokee is like the main name as in "Cherokee Warrior,
Cherokee Arrow". The Cherokee people had a Warrior and an Arrow, they didnt
have a Dakota or a Lance.
Get what I am drying to say.

"aluckyguess" wrote

Get what I am drying to say.

Sounds to me like you are all wet!
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In article . com,
"buttman" wrote:


What I think happened here is that he misunderstood "Warrior" as me
saying "four" or something. When I file all I say for type is PA-28,
and to ATC guys a PA-28 is a Cherokee. So from that point on, I now use
Cherokee as my call sign, even though it says "Warrior III" on the
side, and nowhere in the POH or anywhere else does it have the word
"Cherokee". I know its not a big deal, but I was just wondering, what
do all the other Warrior people use?


Don't feel bad. I used to fly a Consolidated B-24J Liberator around the
country. You know, the 4 engine WWII bomber.

Invariably when flying IFR we would be called "Beech" by the
controllers. It seems the Beech Sierra is a "B24".

I started calling up and saying "Liberator 224J, a WWII 4-engine bomber".

They would say "Beech 224J, cleared as filed......."


G

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Dale wrote:
Invariably when flying IFR we would be called "Beech" by the
controllers. It seems the Beech Sierra is a "B24".

I started calling up and saying "Liberator 224J, a WWII 4-engine bomber".

They would say "Beech 224J, cleared as filed......."


Maybe you would have had better luck with "Consolidated".




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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

In article ,
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote:



Maybe you would have had better luck with "Consolidated".

That was used also...you would think the "4-engine bomber" would be a
clue. G

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
m...

Maybe you would have had better luck with "Consolidated".


If I received a call from a "Consolidated 224J" I'd have to ask if it was a
Liberator, or a Catalina, or a Privateer, or a Valiant.

"Dale" wrote in message
...

Don't feel bad. I used to fly a Consolidated B-24J Liberator around the
country. You know, the 4 engine WWII bomber.

Invariably when flying IFR we would be called "Beech" by the
controllers. It seems the Beech Sierra is a "B24".


The Beech Sierra is BE24, B24 is the designator for the Consolidated B-24
Liberator as well as the C-87 and LB-30.