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  #41  
Old October 12th 10, 01:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
TonyW
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On 10/11/2010 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
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On 10/11/2010 1:17 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTIAS_Ornithopter_No.1

http://ornithopter.net/images/fullscale640-hq.mpg

The ornithopter you claim has a jet engine or propellor moving away from
a standing start.

Where's the jet or propellor?


First read the article and then look closely at the pix. The article
mentions it and it's clearly visible in the pix if you're looking for
it. Also 300 meters isn't much of a flight. If it had flown a loop
around the field, it would be more believable...


The "article" is a page on Wikipedia that anyone can edit.

The first flight of the Wright Flyer was only 36 meters and was only
accomplished by taking off with gravity assist.

Deslaurier's craft took off from a level runway.


As it has been mentioned before, you're acting as if you have a personal
stake in this and it seems more and more like that every time you post...


LOL


You either have a stake in this or you're a toll. The way you ignore
facts and bring up irrelevant information, it's looking more like the
latter than the former...

Tony

  #42  
Old October 12th 10, 01:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Alan Baker
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In article ,
TonyW wrote:

On 10/11/2010 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
wrote:

On 10/11/2010 1:17 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTIAS_Ornithopter_No.1

http://ornithopter.net/images/fullscale640-hq.mpg

The ornithopter you claim has a jet engine or propellor moving away from
a standing start.

Where's the jet or propellor?

First read the article and then look closely at the pix. The article
mentions it and it's clearly visible in the pix if you're looking for
it. Also 300 meters isn't much of a flight. If it had flown a loop
around the field, it would be more believable...


The "article" is a page on Wikipedia that anyone can edit.

The first flight of the Wright Flyer was only 36 meters and was only
accomplished by taking off with gravity assist.

Deslaurier's craft took off from a level runway.


As it has been mentioned before, you're acting as if you have a personal
stake in this and it seems more and more like that every time you post...


LOL


You either have a stake in this or you're a toll. The way you ignore
facts and bring up irrelevant information, it's looking more like the
latter than the former...


I have a stake in facts and truth, Tony.

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  #43  
Old October 12th 10, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
CaveLamb
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This was fascinating...
A hummingbird (several in fact) in slow motion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NQv89pCYU8&NR=1

I was surprised how seldom the wings move in phase.
It looks like a swimmer's crawl most of the time.

Camera Artifact?

Or hovering hummingbird?
  #44  
Old October 12th 10, 03:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
TonyW
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On 10/11/2010 5:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

You either have a stake in this or you're a toll. The way you ignore
facts and bring up irrelevant information, it's looking more like the
latter than the former...


I have a stake in facts and truth, Tony.


I'm more inclined to believe you're trolling.


  #45  
Old October 12th 10, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Alan Baker
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In article ,
TonyW wrote:

On 10/11/2010 5:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

You either have a stake in this or you're a toll. The way you ignore
facts and bring up irrelevant information, it's looking more like the
latter than the former...


I have a stake in facts and truth, Tony.


I'm more inclined to believe you're trolling.


Everyone's got to believe what they want to believe, Tony.

But people who have facts can present them.

So far you haven't.

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Old October 12th 10, 03:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
TonyW
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On 10/11/2010 7:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
wrote:

On 10/11/2010 5:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

You either have a stake in this or you're a toll. The way you ignore
facts and bring up irrelevant information, it's looking more like the
latter than the former...

I have a stake in facts and truth, Tony.


I'm more inclined to believe you're trolling.


Everyone's got to believe what they want to believe, Tony.

But people who have facts can present them.

So far you haven't.


You have twisted some facts and ignored others. I stand by my
conclusion that you're trolling...

Tony

  #47  
Old October 12th 10, 03:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Alan Baker
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In article ,
TonyW wrote:

On 10/11/2010 7:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
wrote:

On 10/11/2010 5:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

You either have a stake in this or you're a toll. The way you ignore
facts and bring up irrelevant information, it's looking more like the
latter than the former...

I have a stake in facts and truth, Tony.

I'm more inclined to believe you're trolling.


Everyone's got to believe what they want to believe, Tony.

But people who have facts can present them.

So far you haven't.


You have twisted some facts and ignored others.


What actual facts have you presented and how have I twisted them?

I stand by my
conclusion that you're trolling...

Tony


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Vancouver, British Columbia
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