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Old July 20th 04, 09:01 PM
Tom Swift
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Former president Bill Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger, is
under criminal investigation and subject to FBI searches of his home and his
office since he was caught - probably by hidden cameras - purloining copies
of highly classified terrorism documents and his own handwritten notes from
a secure reading room at the National Archives in Washington. This event
took place, according to the Associated Press, during preparations to
testify at the Sept. 11 commission hearings after Clinton asked him to
review and select the administration documents to be turned over to the
panel.

This year, Berger has been informally advising Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry.

Even after Berger voluntarily returned documents, two or three drafts are
still missing of a sensitive, after-action report criticizing the Clinton
administration's handling of al Qaeda millennium threats and identifying
American vulnerabilities at airports and sea ports.

The former national security adviser was also found in possession of a small
number of classified papers containing his handwritten notes from the Middle
East peace talks during the 1990s. They are not the focus of the current
criminal probe.

The FBI searches occurred after National Archives employees reported they
saw Berger place documents in his jacket and pants and then noticed some
documents missing. Three still are. Berger admitted to "sloppiness" and
"inadvertently" taking copies of classified documents. They were all
immediately returned, he said, except for a few that he had "apparently
accidentally discarded."

The Berger affair is pennies from heaven for the Bush presidential campaign
with important bearing on the inquiries into intelligence performance prior
to the 9/11 attacks and the Iraq War. It is also of deep significance for
Israel.

For months, President George W. Bush and vice president Dick Cheney have
been under unremitting attack in official probes, films and books for bad
decisions and "flawed intelligence" in the war on terrorism and for
misrepresenting the grounds for going to war in Iraq. In the privacy of the
Bush White House, presidential aides grumble that the Clinton administration
's failure to properly handle rising threats from Osama bin Laden and Saddam
Hussein in the 1990s left these ticking bombs in Bush's lap. Clinton was
said to have ignored the many warnings reaching him, including a specific
threat against New York's World Trade Center. However, Bush has always
forbidden his campaign staff to point the finger at his predecessor in the
White House for the ills of today, just as Clinton refrains from criticizing
the incumbent.

The actions of his former aide have changed these rules.

Presidential challenger Kerry will have to think twice before attacking Bush
on national security issues lest he lay himself open to reminders that a
former Clinton aide and his own adviser was caught red-handed
misappropriating classified materials that revealed how a Democratic
president mishandled the threat of terror.

Berger was closely involved in more than one Labor-led Israeli government's
controversial handling of the peace process during the Clinton years. A
founding father of Israel's dovish Peace Now movement, the adviser was a
friend of the late prime minister Yitzhak Rabin and Ehud Barak. He was less
close to Shimon Peres, preferring to deal with his aide Yossi Bailin, the
current leader of Israel's far left Yahad party.

According to DEBKAfile's sources, Berger removed his notes from Middle East
peace talks from the National Archives in view of the unfortunate sequels of
the Clinton presidency's two central, mutually supportive policies. On the
one hand, Clinton pushed hard for accommodations between Israel, the
Palestinians and its Arab neighbors, while at the same time nurturing
American ties in the Arab and Muslim world. He hoped to gain the trust of
Arab and Muslim leaders for peace with Israel while persuading the Jewish
state to be forthcoming with concessions. However, Clinton's expectation of
a Middle East peace triumph at the White House in the wake of the 1993 Oslo
Accords melted down in the ensuing blight of the Palestinian suicide terror
confrontation that continues to beset the region.

The consequences of his second policy line were still more sweeping.

In deciding to go to war in 1998 on the Muslim Albanian side of the Balkans
against the Christian Serbs, Clinton may have been influenced by the
atrocities committed there but he was in essence pursuing his global
strategy. He chose to elide the fact that Iranian Revolutionary Guards and
al Qaeda cells - most Saudi-dominated - were fighting alongside Albanian and
Bosnian Muslims - as did his advisers, especially Berger and secretary of
state Madeline Albright. Islamic extremists and Arab terrorists as well as
the Saddam regime prospered unnoticed in the Clinton years. Al Qaeda was
allowed to build up in the Balkans a central logistical base for operations
in Europe, from which the Hamburg cell later derived back-up for plotting
the 9/11 attacks against America.

Berger is the second Clinton-era official to face prosecution for
withdrawing classified materials from secure premises. Former CIA director
John Deutsch was pardoned by Clinton hours before he left office and saved
from paying the price for taking home laptops with classified materials in
1996. Earlier, Deutsch resigned.

The case of Sandy Berger differs because the charges against him arise from
the request of a former president in connection with an official probe.
There will always be a question hanging over the precise nature of this
request. Did the former adviser copy and "discard" documents at Clinton's
behest or his own initiative? In the absence of answers, a cloud of
suspicion will hang over the affair and almost certainly influence American
opinion before and after November's presidential election.



  #2  
Old July 20th 04, 09:50 PM
Mark
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I guess former administration officials are dealt with differently than us
'common' folk....

Would think the National Archives would be smart enough to allow access to
COPIES and not the originals!!!!!

duh

Mark

"Tom Swift" wrote in message
...

Former president Bill Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger,

is
under criminal investigation and subject to FBI searches of his home and

his
office since he was caught - probably by hidden cameras - purloining

copies
of highly classified terrorism documents and his own handwritten notes

from
a secure reading room at the National Archives in Washington. This event
took place, according to the Associated Press, during preparations to
testify at the Sept. 11 commission hearings after Clinton asked him to
review and select the administration documents to be turned over to the
panel.

This year, Berger has been informally advising Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry.

Even after Berger voluntarily returned documents, two or three drafts are
still missing of a sensitive, after-action report criticizing the Clinton
administration's handling of al Qaeda millennium threats and identifying
American vulnerabilities at airports and sea ports.

The former national security adviser was also found in possession of a

small
number of classified papers containing his handwritten notes from the

Middle
East peace talks during the 1990s. They are not the focus of the current
criminal probe.

The FBI searches occurred after National Archives employees reported they
saw Berger place documents in his jacket and pants and then noticed some
documents missing. Three still are. Berger admitted to "sloppiness" and
"inadvertently" taking copies of classified documents. They were all
immediately returned, he said, except for a few that he had "apparently
accidentally discarded."

The Berger affair is pennies from heaven for the Bush presidential

campaign
with important bearing on the inquiries into intelligence performance

prior
to the 9/11 attacks and the Iraq War. It is also of deep significance for
Israel.

For months, President George W. Bush and vice president Dick Cheney have
been under unremitting attack in official probes, films and books for bad
decisions and "flawed intelligence" in the war on terrorism and for
misrepresenting the grounds for going to war in Iraq. In the privacy of

the
Bush White House, presidential aides grumble that the Clinton

administration
's failure to properly handle rising threats from Osama bin Laden and

Saddam
Hussein in the 1990s left these ticking bombs in Bush's lap. Clinton was
said to have ignored the many warnings reaching him, including a specific
threat against New York's World Trade Center. However, Bush has always
forbidden his campaign staff to point the finger at his predecessor in the
White House for the ills of today, just as Clinton refrains from

criticizing
the incumbent.

The actions of his former aide have changed these rules.

Presidential challenger Kerry will have to think twice before attacking

Bush
on national security issues lest he lay himself open to reminders that a
former Clinton aide and his own adviser was caught red-handed
misappropriating classified materials that revealed how a Democratic
president mishandled the threat of terror.

Berger was closely involved in more than one Labor-led Israeli

government's
controversial handling of the peace process during the Clinton years. A
founding father of Israel's dovish Peace Now movement, the adviser was a
friend of the late prime minister Yitzhak Rabin and Ehud Barak. He was

less
close to Shimon Peres, preferring to deal with his aide Yossi Bailin, the
current leader of Israel's far left Yahad party.

According to DEBKAfile's sources, Berger removed his notes from Middle

East
peace talks from the National Archives in view of the unfortunate sequels

of
the Clinton presidency's two central, mutually supportive policies. On the
one hand, Clinton pushed hard for accommodations between Israel, the
Palestinians and its Arab neighbors, while at the same time nurturing
American ties in the Arab and Muslim world. He hoped to gain the trust of
Arab and Muslim leaders for peace with Israel while persuading the Jewish
state to be forthcoming with concessions. However, Clinton's expectation

of
a Middle East peace triumph at the White House in the wake of the 1993

Oslo
Accords melted down in the ensuing blight of the Palestinian suicide

terror
confrontation that continues to beset the region.

The consequences of his second policy line were still more sweeping.

In deciding to go to war in 1998 on the Muslim Albanian side of the

Balkans
against the Christian Serbs, Clinton may have been influenced by the
atrocities committed there but he was in essence pursuing his global
strategy. He chose to elide the fact that Iranian Revolutionary Guards and
al Qaeda cells - most Saudi-dominated - were fighting alongside Albanian

and
Bosnian Muslims - as did his advisers, especially Berger and secretary of
state Madeline Albright. Islamic extremists and Arab terrorists as well as
the Saddam regime prospered unnoticed in the Clinton years. Al Qaeda was
allowed to build up in the Balkans a central logistical base for

operations
in Europe, from which the Hamburg cell later derived back-up for plotting
the 9/11 attacks against America.

Berger is the second Clinton-era official to face prosecution for
withdrawing classified materials from secure premises. Former CIA director
John Deutsch was pardoned by Clinton hours before he left office and saved
from paying the price for taking home laptops with classified materials in
1996. Earlier, Deutsch resigned.

The case of Sandy Berger differs because the charges against him arise

from
the request of a former president in connection with an official probe.
There will always be a question hanging over the precise nature of this
request. Did the former adviser copy and "discard" documents at Clinton's
behest or his own initiative? In the absence of answers, a cloud of
suspicion will hang over the affair and almost certainly influence

American
opinion before and after November's presidential election.





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Old July 20th 04, 10:58 PM
Ed Rasimus
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:50:32 GMT, "Mark"
wrote:

I guess former administration officials are dealt with differently than us
'common' folk....

Would think the National Archives would be smart enough to allow access to
COPIES and not the originals!!!!!

duh

Mark

Would also think that a former National Security Advisor would be
pretty well versed in how to handle classified and might deduce that
stuffing it in your sock to take home is a no-no.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8
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Old July 21st 04, 01:56 AM
Dudley Henriques
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:50:32 GMT, "Mark"
wrote:

I guess former administration officials are dealt with differently

than us
'common' folk....

Would think the National Archives would be smart enough to allow

access to
COPIES and not the originals!!!!!

duh

Mark

Would also think that a former National Security Advisor would be
pretty well versed in how to handle classified and might deduce that
stuffing it in your sock to take home is a no-no.


I think I'm getting AWFULLY close to that point with this kind of thing
where that old proverbial house doesn't have to fall on me any more.
:-)))
Dudley


  #6  
Old July 21st 04, 02:00 AM
Tom Swift
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:50:32 GMT, "Mark"

wrote:



CLINTON AIDE ACCIDENTALLY TAKES 9/11 DOCS, NOTES, JOLLY RANCHERS

Former Clinton Administration National Security Advisor Sandy Berger
admitted 'inadvertantly' stuffing highly classified documents and notes into
his pants, absent-mindedly removing them from the national archives on five
occasions, accidentally mailing them to DNC Chair Terry McAuliffe, who
mistakenly buried them in the World Trade Center excavation site.

According to FBI sources, Berger also stopped off at a Bethesda, MD Chevron
FoodMart, where he inadvertantly stuffed his pants with three bags of Jolly
Ranchers, a 24-pack of Bud Lite, a copy of Maxim magazine, and Listerine
Pocket Mints before driving off without paying for 14 gallons of unleaded
super.

An apologetic Berger said that "my bad," and offered to return several cans
of Bud Lite to the Chevron.



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Old July 21st 04, 02:26 AM
Mark
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Another oddity (as if it's not strange enough, even by Inside the Beltway
standards) is that although he was 'observed' by the Archive personnel
performing his "let me adjust my socks" trick; he was still allowed to walk
out of the door!!!!

One would think (at least I would) that he would be stopped on the spot and
asked 'politely' (of course, befitting his stature) to please " PUT THAT
BACK!!!!"

Mark


"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:50:32 GMT, "Mark"
wrote:

I guess former administration officials are dealt with differently than

us
'common' folk....

Would think the National Archives would be smart enough to allow access

to
COPIES and not the originals!!!!!

duh

Mark

Would also think that a former National Security Advisor would be
pretty well versed in how to handle classified and might deduce that
stuffing it in your sock to take home is a no-no.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8



  #8  
Old July 21st 04, 03:42 AM
Paul F Austin
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote
"Mark" wrote:

I guess former administration officials are dealt with differently than

us
'common' folk....

Would think the National Archives would be smart enough to allow access

to
COPIES and not the originals!!!!!

duh

Mark

Would also think that a former National Security Advisor would be
pretty well versed in how to handle classified and might deduce that
stuffing it in your sock to take home is a no-no.


You'd think the same of the DCI (John Deutch), who took home highly
classified material and put it on his PC. Which was connected to the 'net..


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Old July 21st 04, 03:59 AM
Denyav
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You'd think the same of the DCI (John Deutch), who took home highly
classified material and put it on his PC. Which was connected to the 'net..


Do you think Clinton-Lewinsky affair was an innocent flirtation or a Stasi type
operation designed to make Al Gore US president?
  #10  
Old July 21st 04, 04:27 AM
Yeff
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On 21 Jul 2004 02:59:47 GMT, Denyav wrote:

You'd think the same of the DCI (John Deutch), who took home highly
classified material and put it on his PC. Which was connected to the 'net..


Do you think Clinton-Lewinsky affair was an innocent flirtation or a Stasi type
operation designed to make Al Gore US president?


The whole thing had something to do with the Freemasons, fluoridated water,
Fidel Castro, and Florida.

-Jeff B. (military aviation wasn't involved at all.)
yeff at erols dot com
 




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