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Old May 10th 18, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 8:48:35 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
All this thread is going to do is raise blood pressures.¬* Why not take
it to some political rant site and get back to soaring?

On 5/10/2018 6:20 AM, wrote:
Unfortunately - decisions that Trump makes do not just affect the US - but have a ripple effect on the rest of the world too. Just simple things like the sharp increase in oil price following his Iran announcement means my fuel price will go up next month - and I live in South Africa which has nothing to do with the spat with Iran.


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Here, here!!!

I have discovered that those that wring their hands over the miss-steps or faux-pas of Trump, tend to be disciples of the mainstream media (MSM). The MSM used to, for the most part, serve unbiased fact-based news. But since the 2016 US election cycle, have jumped in bed with whichever political party owns them. They all have an agenda. You can choose to believe them if you wish, but everything, EVERYTHING, they broadcast these days is to serve that agenda. The president could have a bowel movement, and they would somehow spin this to be the worst possible thing he could do, if they didn't like him.

To the original post, the original Iran nuclear deal was a bad one. Him ripping it up doesn't mean he doesn't want Iran to stop pursuing nukes. He believes there is a better way to achieve this result, than with that worthless piece of paper. To paraphrase an old saying: There are lies, damned lies, and then statistics. And then you have the news media.
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Old May 10th 18, 05:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Because unfortunately rising fuel prices will affect my soaring. But I agree - this is not a political forum. But talking about conflict and GPS - remember the days during the Gulf War when they degraded the accuracy of the GPS system. You can imagine the mess ii would cause if that was tried now considering how reliant we are on the incredible accuracy and reliability of the system.
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Old May 10th 18, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
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Not commenting on this general thread.......
Not commenting on the sometimes GPS accuracy in the US.
Example......decades ago........seeing a track that went from Harris Hill to Europe and back.....in a few seconds. This while the glider and tracker were sitting on the grid at HHSC.......
I was there.
I saw the trace.
Pretty much NO WAY any government could cover that ground in that time.
I believe it was called, "military dithering" of the signal, because, government.

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Old May 10th 18, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Example......decades ago........seeing a track that went from Harris Hill to Europe and back.....in a few seconds. This while the glider and tracker were sitting on the grid at HHSC.......

I believe it was called, "military dithering" of the signal, because, government.


I believe it was interference from the unshielded ignition in Charlie Sprat's van as he drove by to the gate... but hey, that's my theory.

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Old May 10th 18, 09:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:21:16 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Not commenting on this general thread.......
Not commenting on the sometimes GPS accuracy in the US.
Example......decades ago........seeing a track that went from Harris Hill to Europe and back.....in a few seconds. This while the glider and tracker were sitting on the grid at HHSC.......
I was there.
I saw the trace.
Pretty much NO WAY any government could cover that ground in that time.
I believe it was called, "military dithering" of the signal, because, government.


Charlie - We have seen that type of bizarre GPS trace in New Mexico on several occasions over the years. We had one logger trace a few years ago that had Howard Banks flying at hundreds of miles per hour to the SW and then back in a few seconds. Now, Howard always flew quite fast in his 27, but even for Howard, going supersonic was...well....unlikely. Being that we fly in New Mexico and given that Moriarty is not too far from Corona and Roswell (the crash site from 1947 is actually closer to Corona than Roswell) we usually figure it is just more alien interference (something we are quite used to), but it is possible that our friends at the White Sands Missile Range may have "something" to do with it.....maybe.....but.....I still think it is aliens....
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Old May 10th 18, 10:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Richard Pfiffner[_2_]
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On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 1:52:54 PM UTC-7, Renny wrote:
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:21:16 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Not commenting on this general thread.......
Not commenting on the sometimes GPS accuracy in the US.
Example......decades ago........seeing a track that went from Harris Hill to Europe and back.....in a few seconds. This while the glider and tracker were sitting on the grid at HHSC.......
I was there.
I saw the trace.
Pretty much NO WAY any government could cover that ground in that time.
I believe it was called, "military dithering" of the signal, because, government.


Charlie - We have seen that type of bizarre GPS trace in New Mexico on several occasions over the years. We had one logger trace a few years ago that had Howard Banks flying at hundreds of miles per hour to the SW and then back in a few seconds. Now, Howard always flew quite fast in his 27, but even for Howard, going supersonic was...well....unlikely. Being that we fly in New Mexico and given that Moriarty is not too far from Corona and Roswell (the crash site from 1947 is actually closer to Corona than Roswell) we usually figure it is just more alien interference (something we are quite used to), but it is possible that our friends at the White Sands Missile Range may have "something" to do with it.....maybe.....but.....I still think it is aliens....


GPS is owned and operated by the U.S. Government as a national resource. DOD is the "steward" of GPS, and as such, is responsible to operate the system in accordance with the signal specification.
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Old May 11th 18, 12:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Don't forget that GPS is a US military system.¬* It was not developed at
great tax payer expense just for the pleasure of a few glider pilots,
though I think it's terrific.¬* They can turn it off to us any time they
want.

On 5/10/2018 12:21 PM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Not commenting on this general thread.......
Not commenting on the sometimes GPS accuracy in the US.
Example......decades ago........seeing a track that went from Harris Hill to Europe and back.....in a few seconds. This while the glider and tracker were sitting on the grid at HHSC.......
I was there.
I saw the trace.
Pretty much NO WAY any government could cover that ground in that time.
I believe it was called, "military dithering" of the signal, because, government.


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Dan, 5J
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Old May 11th 18, 12:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Richard Pfiffner[_2_]
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On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:50:19 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
Don't forget that GPS is a US military system.¬* It was not developed at
great tax payer expense just for the pleasure of a few glider pilots,
though I think it's terrific.¬* They can turn it off to us any time they
want.

On 5/10/2018 12:21 PM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Not commenting on this general thread.......
Not commenting on the sometimes GPS accuracy in the US.
Example......decades ago........seeing a track that went from Harris Hill to Europe and back.....in a few seconds. This while the glider and tracker were sitting on the grid at HHSC.......
I was there.
I saw the trace.
Pretty much NO WAY any government could cover that ground in that time.
I believe it was called, "military dithering" of the signal, because, government.


--
Dan, 5J


Another benefit to the world from the evil empire.
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Old May 11th 18, 01:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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They have "promised" not to turn off.

On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:50:19 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
Don't forget that GPS is a US military system.¬* It was not developed at
great tax payer expense just for the pleasure of a few glider pilots,
though I think it's terrific.¬* They can turn it off to us any time they
want.

On 5/10/2018 12:21 PM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Not commenting on this general thread.......
Not commenting on the sometimes GPS accuracy in the US.
Example......decades ago........seeing a track that went from Harris Hill to Europe and back.....in a few seconds. This while the glider and tracker were sitting on the grid at HHSC.......
I was there.
I saw the trace.
Pretty much NO WAY any government could cover that ground in that time.
I believe it was called, "military dithering" of the signal, because, government.


--
Dan, 5J


 




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