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I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several aircraft
images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
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I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?


E-50 Twin Bonanza ?
Tony P.

"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?


My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)

"Andrew B" wrote in message
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"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?


My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)



Yep, according to "Wiki" it's a L-23D, and specifically mentions s/n
57-3101. Later redesignated U-8D. If that trapezoidal feature on it's belly
is a radar then it is a RL-23D. Or it could have been redesignated U-8D
after 1962 and then converted to RU-8D. All that, of course according to
Wikipedia. :-)

TP

muff528 wrote:
"Andrew B" wrote in message
om...
"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)



Yep, according to "Wiki" it's a L-23D, and specifically mentions s/n
57-3101. Later redesignated U-8D. If that trapezoidal feature on it's belly
is a radar then it is a RL-23D. Or it could have been redesignated U-8D
after 1962 and then converted to RU-8D. All that, of course according to
Wikipedia. :-)

TP



WINEBOTTLE, CEFISH PERSON, and CHECKMATE

http://www.nsa.gov/vigilance/vigil00005.cfm

Cheers,

Dave

"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

Yes AND No. It's a U-8 (also known as an RU-8.) The civialian version is
the Beechcraft Queenair.

For more info and pictures go to:

www.globalsecurity.org/.../aircraft/u-8-pics.htm

"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
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muff528 wrote:
"Andrew B" wrote in message
om...
"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)



Yep, according to "Wiki" it's a L-23D, and specifically mentions s/n
57-3101. Later redesignated U-8D. If that trapezoidal feature on it's
belly
is a radar then it is a RL-23D. Or it could have been redesignated U-8D
after 1962 and then converted to RU-8D. All that, of course according to
Wikipedia. :-)

TP



WINEBOTTLE, CEFISH PERSON, and CHECKMATE

http://www.nsa.gov/vigilance/vigil00005.cfm

Cheers,

Dave


......It's almost like you're typing out some sort of code or something! :-)
BTW - Very interesting, and enlightening, article.

Thanks, TP

"muff528" wrote in message
news:a4Kyj.3215$dB.1444@trnddc01...

"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
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muff528 wrote:
"Andrew B" wrote in message
om...
"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)



Yep, according to "Wiki" it's a L-23D, and specifically mentions s/n
57-3101. Later redesignated U-8D. If that trapezoidal feature on it's
belly
is a radar then it is a RL-23D. Or it could have been redesignated U-8D
after 1962 and then converted to RU-8D. All that, of course according to
Wikipedia. :-)

TP



WINEBOTTLE, CEFISH PERSON, and CHECKMATE

http://www.nsa.gov/vigilance/vigil00005.cfm

Cheers,

Dave


.....It's almost like you're typing out some sort of code or something!
:-)
BTW - Very interesting, and enlightening, article.

Thanks, TP


He's probably just checking to see if the Epsilon surveillance satellite is
intercepting his mails. I used to have a list of trigger words that it was
supposed to pick up on, but never had men in dark suits knocking at my
........ excuse me , there's someone at the door !!
phew !! only the postman this time.

muff528 wrote:
"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
...
muff528 wrote:
"Andrew B" wrote in message
om...
"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)


Yep, according to "Wiki" it's a L-23D, and specifically mentions s/n
57-3101. Later redesignated U-8D. If that trapezoidal feature on it's
belly
is a radar then it is a RL-23D. Or it could have been redesignated U-8D
after 1962 and then converted to RU-8D. All that, of course according to
Wikipedia. :-)

TP


WINEBOTTLE, CEFISH PERSON, and CHECKMATE

http://www.nsa.gov/vigilance/vigil00005.cfm

Cheers,

Dave


.....It's almost like you're typing out some sort of code or something! :-)
BTW - Very interesting, and enlightening, article.

Thanks, TP




Sorry, TP ... my previous life took over (or was it the Special
Controller Chip in my brain installed by NSA ---- Hummmm interesting
choice of a phrase ... is that "the chip installed by NSA" OR "my brin
installed by NSA"? Hang on a second, I've got to schratch my Anal Probe
..... ahhhhhhhh

Anyway, if you Google for those Nicknames you'll fine various pointers
to US Army Security Agency (ASA) flying platforms.

The US uses Code Names, Nick Names and Project Names, according to a
Joint Chiefs of Staff Manual.

Code names are like this "JUMPSEAT" -- the unclassified codename for an
atomic weapon test (and coincidentally for a type of National Imagery
Asset).

Nick Names are two words which are selected by a "Nick Name Assignment
Schedule". For example, The US Army Intelligence and Security Command
(USAINSCOM) might be assigned any first word beginning with the letters
CE and any second word beginning with the letter L. So, we have CEFISH
LADDER, CEFIRM LEADER, CEFIRM LANDER, and so on and so forth.

Project names are unclassified names given to a particular project, for
example, "ROUNDTABLE", the project name for something that I recall
being read on for about 40 years ago but can't remember what it was (see
NSA Brain, above). Lots of folks will use the word "GARDENPLOT" which
is a US military domestic insurrection defense plan. However it is
actually GARDEN PLOT.

Now if you are at the CIA, you will use DI-GRAPH code names. MKULTRA,
for instance. "MK" being the first part which designated the country or
the entity to which the code name is applied. In this case, a CIA
clandestine operation conducted within the USA's borders. ULTRA is
simply a unique word thought up by someone in security. MKULTRA is also
a very controversial and highly publicized CIA ****up.

There is a rather ponderous book written by some investigative
journalist (actually as I recall a quite unpatriotic, commie, pinko,
fellow-travelers hippie wierdo destroyer of All that is Good, Mother,
APple Pie and the American Way of Life (AWOL) and probable voter for
Hillery) which I think has the word "Codenames" in the title. Seems to
me that I read it some time ago and had to use a calculator to add up
all the words I remembered.

Anyway, hope this gives you a bit of a back ground.

BTW, I also can give you a whole riff on the UK system, but shan't since
when I worked with them on joint things they swore me to Utter Most
Secrety whilst at the NAFI Cafeteria in Berlin over some most excellent
Bangers and Bisquits and a Cuppa.

Cheers,

Dave

PS attached is a GIF -- the mascot of an operation nicknamed "UNICYCLE FROG"

Dingo wrote:

"muff528" wrote in message
news:a4Kyj.3215$dB.1444@trnddc01...

"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
...
muff528 wrote:
"Andrew B" wrote in message
om...
"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
...
I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)



Yep, according to "Wiki" it's a L-23D, and specifically mentions s/n
57-3101. Later redesignated U-8D. If that trapezoidal feature on it's
belly
is a radar then it is a RL-23D. Or it could have been redesignated U-8D
after 1962 and then converted to RU-8D. All that, of course
according to
Wikipedia. :-)

TP



WINEBOTTLE, CEFISH PERSON, and CHECKMATE

http://www.nsa.gov/vigilance/vigil00005.cfm

Cheers,

Dave


.....It's almost like you're typing out some sort of code or something!
:-)
BTW - Very interesting, and enlightening, article.

Thanks, TP


He's probably just checking to see if the Epsilon surveillance satellite is
intercepting his mails. I used to have a list of trigger words that it was
supposed to pick up on, but never had men in dark suits knocking at my
....... excuse me , there's someone at the door !!
phew !! only the postman this time.


Hah! You must live in a country where the postman actually shows up?
Here at my crib he or she sometimes arrives at noon, other times a 6 pm.
Sometimes leaves mail in the mail box, sometimes tosses it onthe front
porch.

Oh, wait, there's a knock at My Door, I just go and answ...........