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Old September 24th 05, 08:53 PM
pimenthal
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Hello All!
I've been hunting high and low for an audio file. Came across it a few
years ago. It's an actual audio file of a controller or FSS giving the
pilot instructions to recover from a stall? spin? The pilot flew into
IMC became disoriented, asked for assistance and panicked. All the
while the controller helped him to recover the AC. The pilot was close
enough to the ground that he saw the top of a radio tower on the way
down. Quite chilling to listen to, but I can't find the file anymore.
Any one know and could post the link or file?
Thanks!!
Pim

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Old September 24th 05, 09:35 PM
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This was posted a few days ago (last week?) in one of the newsgroups i
read. Either rec.avaition.student or rec.aviation.pilot or
rec.aviation.uk

I listened to it. Where an american pilot basically thinks he's about
to die but the controller tells him to push his control column forward
saving his life. There was then an interview with the airtraffic
control service and pilot about the event.

The audio file highlighted the work of the american air traffic
control service, so it might be on their website. I'm in the uk and
don't know much about who is responsible for that. The FAA?

I'll have a look around. Someone must have seen the post.

Me

On 24 Sep 2005 12:53:59 -0700, "pimenthal"
wrote:

Hello All!
I've been hunting high and low for an audio file. Came across it a few
years ago. It's an actual audio file of a controller or FSS giving the
pilot instructions to recover from a stall? spin? The pilot flew into
IMC became disoriented, asked for assistance and panicked. All the
while the controller helped him to recover the AC. The pilot was close
enough to the ground that he saw the top of a radio tower on the way
down. Quite chilling to listen to, but I can't find the file anymore.
Any one know and could post the link or file?
Thanks!!
Pim

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Old September 24th 05, 09:53 PM
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Here you go. I amaze myself sometimes.

http://www.naats.org/docs/flightassist.mp3

Me

On 24 Sep 2005 12:53:59 -0700, "pimenthal"
wrote:

Hello All!
I've been hunting high and low for an audio file. Came across it a few
years ago. It's an actual audio file of a controller or FSS giving the
pilot instructions to recover from a stall? spin? The pilot flew into
IMC became disoriented, asked for assistance and panicked. All the
while the controller helped him to recover the AC. The pilot was close
enough to the ground that he saw the top of a radio tower on the way
down. Quite chilling to listen to, but I can't find the file anymore.
Any one know and could post the link or file?
Thanks!!
Pim

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Old September 25th 05, 12:50 AM
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Me wrote:
Here you go. I amaze myself sometimes.

http://www.naats.org/docs/flightassist.mp3

Me


Thanks, you ARE amazing!
Pim

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Old September 25th 05, 04:03 AM
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http://www.naats.org/docs/flightassist.mp3

For future reference, and the benefit of all, I have added this amazing
audio file to our aviation video website. See/hear it (and many more) at:

http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

Nothing illustrates stark terror and panic better than that tape, IMHO.
It's absolutely chilling.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old September 25th 05, 09:51 AM
Martin Hotze
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 03:03:21 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

For future reference, and the benefit of all, I have added this amazing
audio file to our aviation video website. See/hear it (and many more) at:

http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm


The page itself is a good idea (though I wouldn't connect/link it with/to
my business website), but you might run into legal troubles someday. You
are stealing from other people.

see the bottom of the mainpage of the last file you added:
http://www.naats.org/
---snip
All content © NAATS, 2000-2005.

All rights are reserved. No material may be reproduced electronically or in
print without written permission from the National Association of Air
Traffic Specialists
11303 Amherst Ave, Suite 4
Wheaton, MD 20902
(301) 933-6228 - Fax (301) 933-3902
---snap

Whatever you argue. It *IS* illegal (or do you have written permission?).
And you were told so before.

Only linking to the ressources might be a solution, and it saves you
bandwidth (yeah, I know, you don't have to pay for it).

#m

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Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010920-8.html
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Old September 25th 05, 10:23 AM
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Martin Hotze wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 03:03:21 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

For future reference, and the benefit of all, I have added this amazing
audio file to our aviation video website. See/hear it (and many more) at:

http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm


The page itself is a good idea (though I wouldn't connect/link it with/to
my business website), but you might run into legal troubles someday. You
are stealing from other people.



I got in some hot water for having "Pimping for Dummies" on my website. The
"for Dummies" series people got upset and threatened my ISP. My ISP told me to
remove it and I did... end of story. It had stayed up for probably three years
before they became aware of it... and I have no idea how they did.

In any case, leave it up until somebody insists you take it down. I doubt
rather seriously there will ever be any repercussion.

And it is an absolutely amazing tape. I've never heard such terror in someone's
voice before. Do you think he quit flying after that or went for instrument
training?



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE


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Old September 25th 05, 11:10 AM
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:23:44 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
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And it is an absolutely amazing tape. I've never heard such terror in someone's
voice before. Do you think he quit flying after that or went for instrument
training?


He probably headed staright for the toilet or for a lie down.

Me
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Old September 25th 05, 11:36 AM
Martin Hotze
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:23:44 GMT, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

The page itself is a good idea (though I wouldn't connect/link it with/to
my business website), but you might run into legal troubles someday. You
are stealing from other people.



I got in some hot water for having "Pimping for Dummies" on my website. The
"for Dummies" series people got upset and threatened my ISP. My ISP told me to
remove it and I did... end of story.


they were kind enough to not sue you.

It had stayed up for probably three years
before they became aware of it... and I have no idea how they did.


eg: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22for+Dummies%22

In any case, leave it up until somebody insists you take it down. I doubt
rather seriously there will ever be any repercussion.


it might be too late if you face payment of $$$$.

And it is an absolutely amazing tape. I've never heard such terror in someone's
voice before. Do you think he quit flying after that or went for instrument
training?


he for sure chenged his pants :-)

#m

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Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010920-8.html
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Old September 25th 05, 03:54 PM
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In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

http://www.naats.org/


The tapes are public domain.
 




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