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Ed Rasimus wrote:
Ever wonder why you never met an active duty military medical doctor in the grade of Lt? Met lots of them......in the Navy. Scott Peterson -- I'm out of my mind, but please wait for the tone and feel free to leave a message... 145/586 |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:46:36 -0700, Scott Peterson
wrote: Ed Rasimus wrote: Ever wonder why you never met an active duty military medical doctor in the grade of Lt? Met lots of them......in the Navy. Scott Peterson Cute. Sort of like me calling transportation and identifying myself as "Captain" on a USN installation. I suppose clear communication might require identifying as O-1, 2, or 3. I recall standing in line watching Academy grads (any of the three trade schools) sorting out their dates of rank prior to getting into a vehicle. Gotta follow that protocol thing. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Ed Rasimus ) writes:
-snip- Ah, the ol' "as far as I know" escape clause. Well, after today, you can know--Gore served 151 days of a 360 day "combat tour". He has used the statement that "I went because if I didn't, someone else would have had to serve in my place." A noble sentiment, but the fact is that someone else did have to serve to complete his curtailed tour. Well, not by much. Gore's enlistment was up in August of 1971 and they sent him home and discharged him at the end of May. Unless he re-enlisted, there was no way he was going to complete a one-year tour. His "early out" cut two months, not seven, off of his tour. 'Sides, if I recall correctly, the draw-down (and "Vietnamization") was well underway by that time and early releases were rather common. There's every reason to assume that no one had to complete the remaining two months - likely his position simply wasn't filled. -- "Cave ab homine unius libri" |
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Ed Rasimus ) writes:
This just in. Breaking news. John Edwards didn't serve in Vietnam. Where was he? In high school. -- "Cave ab homine unius libri" |
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Walt asked in amazement:
ANG pilots were direct commissioned? All of them? Those getting commissions with out prior service could get a direct commission without a formal training program. When the Aviation Cadet Program was still in existence, a lot of ANG pilot and nav trainees went through the program. All it took to get a comission in the Guard during the mid 60's was 60 college semester hours and meeting a comissioning panel, sometimes basic training was not even required. Basic training became a requirement about 1967. By then most states also put their people through some kind of OCS program. It helped if Dad was a Senator or ANG General, but it was OK if Dad was an E-7 Technician or Mom was a secretary at Group HQ. But it was not manditory, a sharp troop with a good record and test taking capability had a good chance. Rick Clark |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote
Scott Peterson wrote: Ed Rasimus wrote: Ever wonder why you never met an active duty military medical doctor in the grade of Lt? Met lots of them......in the Navy. Cute. Sort of like me calling transportation and identifying myself as "Captain" on a USN installation. I suppose clear communication might require identifying as O-1, 2, or 3. I recall standing in line watching Academy grads (any of the three trade schools) sorting out their dates of rank prior to getting into a vehicle. Gotta follow that protocol thing. I remember queuing up for a C-141 ride to Panama. This LtCol came out and told us that the Officers would get on first so they could pick the best seats, and the enlisted would get on second. I remember our First-Sgt bark out "Wrong!" You almost can visualize the LtCol swaying backwards and the Sgt said "Protocol has the lowest rank getting on first into any vehicle." Without skipping a beat the LtCol barked out "Officers first, enlisted second, and First-Sgt's last." |
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"D. Strang" wrote:
"Ed Rasimus" wrote Scott Peterson wrote: Ed Rasimus wrote: Ever wonder why you never met an active duty military medical doctor in the grade of Lt? Met lots of them......in the Navy. Cute. Sort of like me calling transportation and identifying myself as "Captain" on a USN installation. I suppose clear communication might require identifying as O-1, 2, or 3. I recall standing in line watching Academy grads (any of the three trade schools) sorting out their dates of rank prior to getting into a vehicle. Gotta follow that protocol thing. I remember queuing up for a C-141 ride to Panama. This LtCol came out and told us that the Officers would get on first so they could pick the best seats, There are no "best seats" in a C-141 (or is/was there a VIP pallet qualified for use on the aircraft). |
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"Brett" wrote
"D. Strang" wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote Scott Peterson wrote: Ed Rasimus wrote: Ever wonder why you never met an active duty military medical doctor in the grade of Lt? Met lots of them......in the Navy. Cute. Sort of like me calling transportation and identifying myself as "Captain" on a USN installation. I suppose clear communication might require identifying as O-1, 2, or 3. I recall standing in line watching Academy grads (any of the three trade schools) sorting out their dates of rank prior to getting into a vehicle. Gotta follow that protocol thing. I remember queuing up for a C-141 ride to Panama. This LtCol came out and told us that the Officers would get on first so they could pick the best seats, There are no "best seats" in a C-141 (or is/was there a VIP pallet qualified for use on the aircraft). I'm pretty much with you on that! It seemed the officers always wanted the six seats on the last row at the back of the plane (leg room). I really didn't care for a seat, as I would straggle back to the cargo and lay on top of a pallet for a nap. Some loadmasters didn't like it, but most didn't give you a hard time. |
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Ed Rasimus wrote:
And, just now, I noticed the thread title. "Fighter Jets..."? The airplanes are jet fighters. Or, simply just fighters. Or jets. That was always a pet peeve of mine as well (nobody ever says "Fighter Props.") Another one is "motor" instead of "engine." |
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