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  #21  
Old September 27th 08, 03:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2008-09-26 15:56:52 -0700, " said:

On Sep 26, 10:40*am, C J Campbell
wrote:
On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, " said:





On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell
wrote:
On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
said:


I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.


If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, wh

y
are they still recruiting?


As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really
came down an issued new rules . G


Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief of
Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new rules?

I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the
Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is fine
by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to abuse them,
either.
--
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JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
honor the US flag.

They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
that matter sing the national anthem..

Looks like a free ride to me


Well, maybe it is a free ride. Maybe it is a free ride for Quakers and
other peace groups as well. Still, they do have to pay taxes and those
taxes go to support our military, whether they like it or not.

I served my country in the Air Force. I have done as much as I thought
I could do to preserve freedom in this country. And I was glad to do
it. I do not begrudge the JWs or anybody else the freedoms that I
worked for. I only wish those freedoms were universal throughout the
world.

I strongly disagree with the JWs on many issues, especially on duty to
country. Nevertheless, as long as they are not actively fighting
against us or committing some act of treason, I am willing to let them
do as they wish.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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  #22  
Old September 27th 08, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2008-09-26 18:11:20 -0700, "Morgans" said:


wrote

JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
honor the US flag.

They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
that matter sing the national anthem..

Looks like a free ride to me

Yep. They are not classified as a mainstream religion, in my book, but are
only a cult.


Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO. A lot of
people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not accept
their idea of the Trinity. I do not think that their definition of the
Trinity is supported by the scriptures. So these people call me a
cultist, vandalize our churches, and abuse our missionaries. And a lot
of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served their
country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to
attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some
Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs. The JWs, at
least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot say the
same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are
unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths
are.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old September 27th 08, 04:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"C J Campbell" wrote


Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO.


Perhaps that is too harsh, and I thought that right after I hit send.
Still, they do have some very controlling ways among their followers. If
not the "C" word, it is close, IMHO.

A lot of people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not
accept their idea of the Trinity.


I would have to think that there is a big jump, up to your religion from the
JW.

I do not think that their definition of the Trinity is supported by the
scriptures. So these people call me a cultist, vandalize our churches, and
abuse our missionaries.


Extreemists. There are a lot of them around, unfortunately.

And a lot of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served
their country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to
attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some
Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs.


Again, extreemists. If they do not allow you your freedom, they are at
fault.

The JWs, at least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot
say the same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are
unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths
are.


There are many problems with people who have no flexibility for other
people's views, and are willing to go to extreme measures to take other
people's freedoms away.

Although I may not agree with the JW point of view, and may even label them
with some name, I fully stand behind their right to believe as they want, as
long as they allow others to believe as they may.

When it comes down to it, that is what the whole basis of this country was
founded on. Long may that basis prosper.
--
Jim in NC


  #24  
Old September 27th 08, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]
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C J Campbell wrote in
news:[email protected]:

On 2008-09-26 15:56:52 -0700, "
said:

On Sep 26, 10:40*am, C J Campbell
wrote:
On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, "
said:





On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell
wrote:
On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
said:

I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.

If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in
heaven, wh

y
are they still recruiting?

As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really
came down an issued new rules . G

Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief
of Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new
rules?

I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the
Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is
fine by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to
abuse them, either.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will
not honor the US flag.

They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
that matter sing the national anthem..

Looks like a free ride to me


Well, maybe it is a free ride. Maybe it is a free ride for Quakers and
other peace groups as well. Still, they do have to pay taxes and those
taxes go to support our military, whether they like it or not.

I served my country in the Air Force. I have done as much as I thought
I could do to preserve freedom in this country. And I was glad to do
it. I do not begrudge the JWs or anybody else the freedoms that I
worked for. I only wish those freedoms were universal throughout the
world.

I strongly disagree with the JWs on many issues, especially on duty to
country. Nevertheless, as long as they are not actively fighting
against us or committing some act of treason, I am willing to let them
do as they wish.


You're a true christian.



Bertie
  #25  
Old September 30th 08, 03:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ash Wyllie
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C J Campbell opined

On 2008-09-26 18:11:20 -0700, "Morgans" said:



wrote

JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
honor the US flag.

They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
that matter sing the national anthem..

Looks like a free ride to me

Yep. They are not classified as a mainstream religion, in my book, but are
only a cult.


Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO. A lot of
people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not accept
their idea of the Trinity. I do not think that their definition of the
Trinity is supported by the scriptures. So these people call me a
cultist, vandalize our churches, and abuse our missionaries. And a lot
of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served their
country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to
attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some
Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs. The JWs, at
least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot say the
same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are
unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths
are.


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


A church is a cult with sufficient political power to make people call it a
chuch.


-ash
Cthulhu in 2008!
Vote the greater evil.


 




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