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I think you either made a math error or mis-typed. 88 gallons of fuel is 520 lbs, so if the useful
load is 1400 lbs, then that leaves 880 lbs payload, not 1065. Maybe you meant adding the flint tanks gives you an additional 200 lbs useful load, and if you leave them empty it gets you close to that 1065 lbs. 1065 is only 15 lbs more than I get with my more or less stock Six, although I can only dream of 150+ kts. What kind of fuel burn do you get at that speed? Mike Long wrote: Marval wrote in message ... Can anyone help me out? trying to find a 6 place airplane that can truly carry it's load, single engine. looking for a payload of at least 1000 pounds with full of fuel. *** Sent via http://www.automationtools.com *** Add a newsgroup interface to your website today. A 206H has just under 1400 lbs useful. If you add Flint Tip Tanks, it will be 200 lbs additional if you don't put fuel in them. So, roughly, that leaves 1065 lbs payload with 88 gallons. With small gear, 156-158 kts. Mike -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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Hi,
1000lb load is all very well, but in my book that doesn't equate to 6 adults! 600kg would be nearer if "normal" male adults are called for. Would only be enough for 5 of me! :-) Makes me think what the OP plans to do with 6 men in the plane... *just kidding* Peter |
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Amphibs. When I was there a few months ago, Murphy was starting a pair of
prototype floats for the Moose. They should be availible later this year. I also plan to use both wheels and skis. My hanger was engineered to take a 4000lb point load in the center so my plan is to lift the plane with a hoist and swap gear. Mike MU-2 "Doug" wrote in message om... Cool. Which floats are you putting on it? Straights or Amphibs? I took my Husky up north with Wipline 2100A's. What a trip! "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message hlink.net... I am waiting on my Moose kit #and is will have the large tanks! With the large tank option I anticipate being able to go fishing from place to place for an extended period without returning to an airport. The Moose is evidently proving very popular since I have been assigned serial number 241. Mike MU-2 "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Drew Dalgleish" wrote in message ... | If you're not in a hurry for it you could build yourself a Murphy | Moose. | Aahh. But then I would put in extra large gas tanks, and still be back with the same 'problem.' |
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Welcome to the club Mike. Did you get a quick build? There's a few
choices for amphibs now Montana is building and a guy near me is working on a composite set. There's a rebel builders list you might want to join at https://www.dcsol.com/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx It's mostly rebel stuff but some elite and moose chatter as well. My Rebel is hanging from the rafters right now while I fit a set of wheel skis of my own design. Changing from wheels to floats takes about a day. Drew Dalgleish Centralia ont. Murphy Rebel C-FYHO Amphibs. When I was there a few months ago, Murphy was starting a pair of prototype floats for the Moose. They should be availible later this year. I also plan to use both wheels and skis. My hanger was engineered to take a 4000lb point load in the center so my plan is to lift the plane with a hoist and swap gear. Mike MU-2 "Doug" wrote in message . com... Cool. Which floats are you putting on it? Straights or Amphibs? I took my Husky up north with Wipline 2100A's. What a trip! "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message thlink.net... I am waiting on my Moose kit #and is will have the large tanks! With the large tank option I anticipate being able to go fishing from place to place for an extended period without returning to an airport. The Moose is evidently proving very popular since I have been assigned serial number 241. Mike MU-2 "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Drew Dalgleish" wrote in message ... | If you're not in a hurry for it you could build yourself a Murphy | Moose. | Aahh. But then I would put in extra large gas tanks, and still be back with the same 'problem.' |
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Ray Andraka wrote in message ...
I think you either made a math error or mis-typed. 88 gallons of fuel is 520 lbs, so if the useful load is 1400 lbs, then that leaves 880 lbs payload, not 1065. Maybe you meant adding the flint tanks gives you an additional 200 lbs useful load, and if you leave them empty it gets you close to that 1065 lbs. 1065 is only 15 lbs more than I get with my more or less stock Six, although I can only dream of 150+ kts. What kind of fuel burn do you get at that speed? Mike Long wrote: Yes, I meant to imply the 1065 came with the addition of Flint Tanks but with no fuel in them - only the 88 gallons standard. The Flint's add 200 lbs to the gross weight. 15-16 gallons is the norm and the small gear seems to make the airplane faster by more than I would have thought. Mike |
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I ordered the quick build kit and the delivery time is about 9 months. I
think that this is actually good for me becasue by the time I have to make choices on prop, floats ect there will probably be a body of expertise that doesn't exist yet. Thanks for the link, I will probably start lurking there over the next few months. Mike MU-2 "Drew Dalgleish" wrote in message ... Welcome to the club Mike. Did you get a quick build? There's a few choices for amphibs now Montana is building and a guy near me is working on a composite set. There's a rebel builders list you might want to join at https://www.dcsol.com/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx It's mostly rebel stuff but some elite and moose chatter as well. My Rebel is hanging from the rafters right now while I fit a set of wheel skis of my own design. Changing from wheels to floats takes about a day. Drew Dalgleish Centralia ont. Murphy Rebel C-FYHO Amphibs. When I was there a few months ago, Murphy was starting a pair of prototype floats for the Moose. They should be availible later this year. I also plan to use both wheels and skis. My hanger was engineered to take a 4000lb point load in the center so my plan is to lift the plane with a hoist and swap gear. Mike MU-2 "Doug" wrote in message . com... Cool. Which floats are you putting on it? Straights or Amphibs? I took my Husky up north with Wipline 2100A's. What a trip! "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message thlink.net... I am waiting on my Moose kit #and is will have the large tanks! With the large tank option I anticipate being able to go fishing from place to place for an extended period without returning to an airport. The Moose is evidently proving very popular since I have been assigned serial number 241. Mike MU-2 "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Drew Dalgleish" wrote in message ... | If you're not in a hurry for it you could build yourself a Murphy | Moose. | Aahh. But then I would put in extra large gas tanks, and still be back with the same 'problem.' |
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message hlink.net... I ordered the quick build kit and the delivery time is about 9 months. I think that this is actually good for me becasue by the time I have to make choices on prop, floats ect there will probably be a body of expertise that doesn't exist yet. Thanks for the link, I will probably start lurking there over the next few months. http://www.montanafloat.com Right in your back yard. |
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Mike,
If you haven't already, you might want to check out www.seaplanes.org . It is the quintessential seaplane site. "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message link.net... Amphibs. When I was there a few months ago, Murphy was starting a pair of prototype floats for the Moose. They should be availible later this year. I also plan to use both wheels and skis. My hanger was engineered to take a 4000lb point load in the center so my plan is to lift the plane with a hoist and swap gear. Mike MU-2 "Doug" wrote in message om... Cool. Which floats are you putting on it? Straights or Amphibs? I took my Husky up north with Wipline 2100A's. What a trip! "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message hlink.net... I am waiting on my Moose kit #and is will have the large tanks! With the large tank option I anticipate being able to go fishing from place to place for an extended period without returning to an airport. The Moose is evidently proving very popular since I have been assigned serial number 241. Mike MU-2 "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Drew Dalgleish" wrote in message ... | If you're not in a hurry for it you could build yourself a Murphy | Moose. | Aahh. But then I would put in extra large gas tanks, and still be back with the same 'problem.' |
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Thanks. There will be a lot of options by the time I have the airplane
completed. I'm hopeful that the floats from Murphy will be less expensive than certified floats. Mike MU-2 "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message hlink.net... I ordered the quick build kit and the delivery time is about 9 months. I think that this is actually good for me becasue by the time I have to make choices on prop, floats ect there will probably be a body of expertise that doesn't exist yet. Thanks for the link, I will probably start lurking there over the next few months. http://www.montanafloat.com Right in your back yard. |
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Marval wrote:
Can anyone help me out? trying to find a 6 place airplane that can truly carry it's load, single engine. looking for a payload of at least 1000 pounds with full of fuel. CompAir? |
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