Opinions wanted

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.

A few well placed LGB's during lunch hour?


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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the
needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any
country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done?
Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Today? A coupla TLAMS would do just fine, (during non-shift hours).
Back then? Send in Lee Marvin and the "Dirty Dozen"!!!

On 05 Jan 2004 18:22:15 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done? Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

In article ,
(ArtKramr) writes:
Subject: Opinions wanted
From: "killfile"
Date: 1/5/04 11:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the
needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any
country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done?
Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?

I'd have offered them more for the gyros than the Germans could pay.

Matt


Not a bad idea. (grin)

The Allies actually did something like that. One bit of intelligence
fallout after the Schweinfurt raids was that the Germans were getting
a lot of ball bearing from Sweden. The Brits (And possibley the
U.S. as well), set up an operation to buy Swedish ball bearings and
fly them to Britain.

They were flown out a ton at a time in BOAC marked and crewed
Mosquitos.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

ArtKramr wrote:

I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done? Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer



Bomb 'em, claim it's an accident, blame it on weather, inexperience,
confusion and other stuff. Offer lots of cash as reparations. Tell 'em
you'll make a "no bomb" zone that you'll try to stick to.

Bomb 'em, claim it's an accident, blame it on weather, inexperience,
confusion and other stuff. Offer lots of cash as reparations. Tell 'em
you'll make a "no bomb" zone that you'll try to stick to.

So selling weapons/weapon parts to conflicts makes you and your workforce
legal targets? Well actually the workforce, their families and basically
everyone that happens to live in that city.
If Germany would have bombed cities in USA to rubble before decleration of
war you would have accepted it because, hey there were aiding the allied war
effort?
Obviously Germany didn't have capacity for that, but that is just an
example.

tadaa wrote:

Bomb 'em, claim it's an accident, blame it on weather, inexperience,
confusion and other stuff. Offer lots of cash as reparations. Tell 'em
you'll make a "no bomb" zone that you'll try to stick to.



So selling weapons/weapon parts to conflicts makes you and your workforce
legal targets? Well actually the workforce, their families and basically
everyone that happens to live in that city.
If Germany would have bombed cities in USA to rubble before decleration of
war you would have accepted it because, hey there were aiding the allied war
effort?
Obviously Germany didn't have capacity for that, but that is just an
example.



I'm not saying they were legal targets or not. I'm just giving the
"extremely" short story of Schaffhausen.

Subject: Opinions wanted
From: Mark and Kim Smith
Date: 1/6/04 10:26 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



tadaa wrote:

Bomb 'em, claim it's an accident, blame it on weather, inexperience,
confusion and other stuff. Offer lots of cash as reparations. Tell 'em
you'll make a "no bomb" zone that you'll try to stick to.



So selling weapons/weapon parts to conflicts makes you and your workforce
legal targets? Well actually the workforce, their families and basically
everyone that happens to live in that city.
If Germany would have bombed cities in USA to rubble before decleration of
war you would have accepted it because, hey there were aiding the allied war
effort?
Obviously Germany didn't have capacity for that, but that is just an
example.



I'm not saying they were legal targets or not. I'm just giving the
"extremely" short story of Schaffhausen.


You peeked. (grin)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr wrote:

Subject: Opinions wanted
From: Mark and Kim Smith
Date: 1/6/04 10:26 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



tadaa wrote:



Bomb 'em, claim it's an accident, blame it on weather, inexperience,
confusion and other stuff. Offer lots of cash as reparations. Tell 'em
you'll make a "no bomb" zone that you'll try to stick to.




So selling weapons/weapon parts to conflicts makes you and your workforce
legal targets? Well actually the workforce, their families and basically
everyone that happens to live in that city.
If Germany would have bombed cities in USA to rubble before decleration of
war you would have accepted it because, hey there were aiding the allied war
effort?
Obviously Germany didn't have capacity for that, but that is just an
example.





I'm not saying they were legal targets or not. I'm just giving the
"extremely" short story of Schaffhausen.




You peeked. (grin)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer



Yeesh! It wasn't easy Art! It took a couple of hours and my monitor
burned holes in my eyeballs, but cheat I did!

In message , ArtKramr
writes
Subject: Opinions wanted
From: Mark and Kim Smith
I'm not saying they were legal targets or not. I'm just giving the
"extremely" short story of Schaffhausen.

You peeked. (grin)

Sounds more Swiss than Swedish. Other than that I'm going to be a good
boy and play by Art's rules - it's a good game and I don't want to spoil
it.

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

tadaa wrote:

So selling weapons/weapon parts to conflicts makes you and your workforce
legal targets? Well actually the workforce, their families and basically
everyone that happens to live in that city.
If Germany would have bombed cities in USA to rubble before decleration of
war you would have accepted it because, hey there were aiding the allied
war effort?
Obviously Germany didn't have capacity for that, but that is just an
example.

Well, the Hun *did* bomb substantial parts of British cities to rubble.

Outside London, Coventry and Liverpool spring readily to mind.