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"Bill Shatzer" wrote
In any case, if I recall correctly, it was freakin' -impossible- to wound oneself by firing an M-79 round "too close". According to his crew: They were shooting at rocks along the shore, and he got hit by a piece of shrapnel (a sliver). Lucky *******. Pretty typical stuff, that killed a lot of troops who weren't so lucky. I know four guys in two tours, who have their name on the wall, who killed themselves doing stuff this stupid. |
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I've seen a lot of Westerns, and John Wayne war movies, and Platoon is near the top, mainly for the script, and for the acting. It probably has as much to do with Vietnam, as John Wayne's had to do about D-Day or the Pacific. But at least John Wayne never thought of himself as the Messiah. The only image I carried away from Platoon is the guy with his arms outstretched: oooh, look, daddy! Jesus on the Cross! What clever symbolism! This much be a very deep movie! My own Viet picks: We Were Soldiers, Go Tell the Spartans, and Full Metal Jacket. The first is one of the great war movies, the second was based on a book I wrote, and the third is a classic bang! bang! film. I enjoyed each of them as much the second time around. Hamburger Hill had its moments, but I sometimes forgot what war it was supposed to be. I probably won't see it the second time. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org |
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One, Bush learned to fly in the military at government expense, did not complete his assigned commitment, and flew, if I understand , fourteen months after UPT I'm glad you put in the qualification, because clearly you don't understand. Bush learned to fly in a bit more than a year of full-time service, 1968-69, was an active duty pilot until his unit transitioned to a different aircraft in 1972, and fulfilled his military obligation in every respect, serving six and one-half years in total, or somewhat more than two years of active duty for training, as it is termed. www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:45:07 -0700, "NW_PILOT"
wrote: If there is an election this year I will be very surprised. Oh yes, I forgot. The black helicopters will swoop in and take over Washington. Is that before or after the draft is reinstated? Control K! (I find, interestingly enough, that kill-filing these people almost always results in 1 message being deleted. Evidently they are fakes. Take a look at steven's email address, for example.) all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:56:53 -0600, Ed Rasimus
wrote: Qualifying after UPT in an operational single-seat jet takes, on average another eight to ten months and then becoming operationally ready takes another six months. That seems to be about right in prexy's case. Bush was on full-time duty ("active duty for training") from November 1968 to November 1969. Back at Ellington, he remained on full-time duty until June 1970, when he graduated from Combat Crew Training School. Altogether, about 21 months full-time service, after which he became a weekend warrior. It's a bit sad that the left has to smear his service, which of course few of them would admit was worth doing in any event! (Most of my friends wouldn't go within spitting distance of a military man until in desperation they signed on with the Wesley Clark campaign. Suddenly, getting a hero was the most important qualifcation for a Democratic primary.) Even the redoubtable Michael Moore hasn't bothered to retread this tired old lie. More at www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org |
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Senator Kerry has three.
Two of which he may have earned. Prove he didn't earn all three. Walt |
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This documet shows conclusively that Bush performed no service for
16 months: http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc10.gif It does not show that he was AWOL. No, you have to draw that inference yourself. Walt |
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Kerry was and is a true decorated war hero.
Who by his own admission in sworn Senate testimony was personally guilty of committing war crimes and atrocities as well as personally observing them in his role as a commissioned officer yet not doing anything to stop them. Can you source some back up of that statement? Walt |
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Vice [sic] President Bush is the issue, and the only issue.
Why isn't Kerry the issue? Kerry's military records are complete. Bush's are not. Walt |
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