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Matt Whiting wrote
Well, I probably have a little advantage in this area as I've managed fairly large engineering groups As have I. In fact, that's what pays for the airplane. Nevertheless, I learned that there are differences in how it's done in the office and in the cockpit. Like I said - I had the same opinion of this you did, until I started working on my ATP. Michael |
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Michael wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote Well, I probably have a little advantage in this area as I've managed fairly large engineering groups As have I. In fact, that's what pays for the airplane. Nevertheless, I learned that there are differences in how it's done in the office and in the cockpit. Like I said - I had the same opinion of this you did, until I started working on my ATP. Michael That's one reason I wrote earlier that I'll be curious to see if Mike R. changes his opinion one that he's beginning his ATP. I doubt I'd change mine. I don't care whether in sports, shooting, flying, motorcycling, etc., I've always used the "train as you X, X as you train", with X being whatever activity of interest to you. Since I fly single pilot IFR, I'm not going to train or fly with a copilot who won't always be there. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote
That's one reason I wrote earlier that I'll be curious to see if Mike R. changes his opinion one that he's beginning his ATP. I'm betting that if he trains with a real, practicing ATP (meaning someone who flies in a crew environment day in and day out) he will. If not, not. I don't care whether in sports, shooting, flying, motorcycling, etc., I've always used the "train as you X, X as you train" Well, that's your choice - but I believe in cross-training. There is value to getting out of your comfort zone and doing something different from, but related to what you do normally. I believe in tailwheel training for trigear pilots, glider training for power pilots, rotorcraft training for fixed wing pilots - you name it. Not at the initial stages, but once you reach a level of proficiency where there are only very small gains to be made with further practice, cross training opens up new perspectives. The essential point is that at some level, the best bet in improving your skills at X is to do Y. If I'm doing a recurrent training session for a multiengine pilot and he executes a near-perfect single engine partial panel non-precision circling approach to a short runway, I will not suggest to him that he should keep practicing this until it is absolutely flawless. I will suggest that he get into a glider, or a seaplane, or a biplane - something different. If you don't believe in cross-training, you're not going to suggest that. Michael |
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Michael wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote That's one reason I wrote earlier that I'll be curious to see if Mike R. changes his opinion one that he's beginning his ATP. I'm betting that if he trains with a real, practicing ATP (meaning someone who flies in a crew environment day in and day out) he will. If not, not. I don't care whether in sports, shooting, flying, motorcycling, etc., I've always used the "train as you X, X as you train" Well, that's your choice - but I believe in cross-training. There is value to getting out of your comfort zone and doing something different from, but related to what you do normally. I believe in tailwheel training for trigear pilots, glider training for power pilots, rotorcraft training for fixed wing pilots - you name it. Not at the initial stages, but once you reach a level of proficiency where there are only very small gains to be made with further practice, cross training opens up new perspectives. The essential point is that at some level, the best bet in improving your skills at X is to do Y. If I'm doing a recurrent training session for a multiengine pilot and he executes a near-perfect single engine partial panel non-precision circling approach to a short runway, I will not suggest to him that he should keep practicing this until it is absolutely flawless. I will suggest that he get into a glider, or a seaplane, or a biplane - something different. If you don't believe in cross-training, you're not going to suggest that. I never said I don't believe in acquiring new and varied aviation skills. I'm simply saying that you use the skills where they fit. I have no problem learning two-pilot CRM techniques, I'm just saying I wouldn't apply them occasionally just because I have a warm body in the right seat. Having additional skills doesn't mean you use them where they aren't appropriate. To me, it simply isn't appropriate to randomly depend on another person when this isn't your normal operation. I want to keep my single pilot skills as sharp as possible and have good habits that will automatically come into play should an emergency occur. I believe the best way to keep my single pilot skills sharp is to always fly as a single pilot and to use another person only for noncritical supplemental stuff such as handing me charts or monitoring descents, etc. I have no problem having a right-seat pax performing redundant operations such as monitoring my altitudes, but I would not give them a critical role to play in my operation. Mike R., you will report back as to how your ATP training is progressing and any change of heart that you have with respect to single pilot operation, right? :-) Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote
I never said I don't believe in acquiring new and varied aviation skills. I'm simply saying that you use the skills where they fit. I have no problem learning two-pilot CRM techniques, I'm just saying I wouldn't apply them occasionally just because I have a warm body in the right seat. Then how will you practice them? Michael |
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Michael wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote I never said I don't believe in acquiring new and varied aviation skills. I'm simply saying that you use the skills where they fit. I have no problem learning two-pilot CRM techniques, I'm just saying I wouldn't apply them occasionally just because I have a warm body in the right seat. Then how will you practice them? Michael I wouldn't practice any that required two pilots. Someone said that they felt there were skills from two-pilot CRM training that would benefit a solo pilot. I don't agree, but if I did come across such a skill than I would use it. However, I would not practice nor use any skill which REQUIRED a second pilot during those few occasions where I have a second pilot with me, because two-pilot operation is for me the exception. Matt |
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