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Old July 11th 06, 10:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area

I just moved to cincinnati and curious about the status of ethanol in
the autofuel in the area.

Is there a web site that shows what cities and/or counties that have
ethanol in their autofuel?

Are there any airports in the Cincinnati area that sells autofuel?

Thanks

Dave

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Old July 11th 06, 11:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/special/oxy2.html shows the areas
that require oxygenated gasoline, which means ethanol these days. It's
a bit hard to decipher because some areas listed in table 1 are now
exempt according to table 3.

However this is NOT a complete list. You better test your fuel using
the simple method described on Petersen's website.

noname wrote:
I just moved to cincinnati and curious about the status of ethanol in
the autofuel in the area.

Is there a web site that shows what cities and/or counties that have
ethanol in their autofuel?

Are there any airports in the Cincinnati area that sells autofuel?

Thanks

Dave


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Old July 11th 06, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area


BTW due to the phase out of MTBE, these days chances are pretty good
that ethanol is ONLY found in areas where oxygenated gasoline is
required, or in states where ethanol is mandated in gasoline. The
reason is supply and demand. Since the phase out of MTBE began this
year there's a big shortage of ethanol that drove up the already
subsidized ethanol price to something like 50c above wholesale
gasonline price. It'll be hard to image any oil company blending
ethanol into gasoline in aeras where ethanol isn't absolutely mandated.


M wrote:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/special/oxy2.html shows the areas
that require oxygenated gasoline, which means ethanol these days. It's
a bit hard to decipher because some areas listed in table 1 are now
exempt according to table 3.

However this is NOT a complete list. You better test your fuel using
the simple method described on Petersen's website.

noname wrote:
I just moved to cincinnati and curious about the status of ethanol in
the autofuel in the area.

Is there a web site that shows what cities and/or counties that have
ethanol in their autofuel?

Are there any airports in the Cincinnati area that sells autofuel?

Thanks

Dave


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Old July 12th 06, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area

I am based in El Monte (KEMT). I notice in Los Angeles area, the
effective period is from Oct. 1 to Feb. 29. I know the only sure way
is to test before fill up. But does that mean no ethanol need to be
added from March 1 to Sept. 29?

M wrote:
BTW due to the phase out of MTBE, these days chances are pretty good
that ethanol is ONLY found in areas where oxygenated gasoline is
required, or in states where ethanol is mandated in gasoline. The
reason is supply and demand. Since the phase out of MTBE began this
year there's a big shortage of ethanol that drove up the already
subsidized ethanol price to something like 50c above wholesale
gasonline price. It'll be hard to image any oil company blending
ethanol into gasoline in aeras where ethanol isn't absolutely mandated.


M wrote:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/special/oxy2.html shows the areas
that require oxygenated gasoline, which means ethanol these days. It's
a bit hard to decipher because some areas listed in table 1 are now
exempt according to table 3.

However this is NOT a complete list. You better test your fuel using
the simple method described on Petersen's website.

noname wrote:
I just moved to cincinnati and curious about the status of ethanol in
the autofuel in the area.

Is there a web site that shows what cities and/or counties that have
ethanol in their autofuel?

Are there any airports in the Cincinnati area that sells autofuel?

Thanks

Dave


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Old July 12th 06, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area

In article . com,
"noname" wrote:

I just moved to cincinnati and curious about the status of ethanol in
the autofuel in the area.

Is there a web site that shows what cities and/or counties that have
ethanol in their autofuel?

Are there any airports in the Cincinnati area that sells autofuel?


A member of EAA 174 called around to the autofuel distributors in the
Cincinnati area a year or two ago and reported to the membership which
stations added ethanol and which stations didn't.

Check eaa174.org.
Post the question and see if anyone responds.

BTW... EAA 174 will meet Sunday, July 16, 2PM, Clermont County Airport,
HAWK Building.
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Old July 12th 06, 03:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area


is there a requirement in Ohio to label the pumps if there is ethanol
added.
I recall that that is a requirement in a few states.

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Old July 12th 06, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area

In article .com,
"noname" wrote:

is there a requirement in Ohio to label the pumps if there is ethanol
added.


Yes, there is.
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Old July 12th 06, 05:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area


As far as EPA is concerned that's true. However the state of
California might have additional ethanol blending requirements.

You can easily test this at a local pump next time you gas up your car.

wrote:
I am based in El Monte (KEMT). I notice in Los Angeles area, the
effective period is from Oct. 1 to Feb. 29. I know the only sure way
is to test before fill up. But does that mean no ethanol need to be
added from March 1 to Sept. 29?



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Old July 12th 06, 05:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area


That honestly isn't very useful unless the law also prohibits those
"CYA" labels that say the gasoline "may" contain ethonal when there
isn't any.

In Seattle area I see a lot of labels saying that the gas *may* contain
up to 10% ethanol, where in fact that the Seattle metro area has been
exempt from using oxygenated gasoline by EPA since 1996! Blending
ethanol is a costly procedure for the oil companies and they have no
reason to do it unless it's mandated by law.


john smith wrote:
In article .com,
"noname" wrote:

is there a requirement in Ohio to label the pumps if there is ethanol
added.


Yes, there is.


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Old July 13th 06, 02:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Default autofuel and ethanol in cincinnati area

I just checked an Exxon station on the north side of town and there was
no ethanol in the gas and there was no label on the pump either.
YEA!!!
$3.00 a gallon looks a lot better than 4.00+ a gallon.




M wrote:
That honestly isn't very useful unless the law also prohibits those
"CYA" labels that say the gasoline "may" contain ethonal when there
isn't any.

In Seattle area I see a lot of labels saying that the gas *may* contain
up to 10% ethanol, where in fact that the Seattle metro area has been
exempt from using oxygenated gasoline by EPA since 1996! Blending
ethanol is a costly procedure for the oil companies and they have no
reason to do it unless it's mandated by law.


john smith wrote:
In article .com,
"noname" wrote:

is there a requirement in Ohio to label the pumps if there is ethanol
added.


Yes, there is.


 




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