Navy or Air Farce?

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, BUFDRVR
blurted out:

And while it may not technically be fun, there is a sense of accomplishment
once your done.

So is taking a HUGE dump.

Juvat

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, Pechs
blurted out:

Had an exchange tour with the USAF..IP in 61st TFS and 13th TFTS..late 70's.
Flew F-4D after the US Gov't gave all the MacDill -E models to Egypt.

BUT my biggest gripe was when the Wing Commander didn't like it when I didn't
have my scarf on, or when I rolled up my sleeves too high or when I had my
brown boots on.

In 1987 stationed at Kunsan, a new arrival was an AF type whose
previous tour was an exchange with VF-2 (I think) aboard the
Ranger...Bob "Motown" Records.

When Motown showed up TDY at MacDill for F-16 RTU (that'd be the RAG
for my naval brethren) from his exchange tour, he walked into the
squadron in the finest of naval traditions...wearing a polo shirt
under his bag, "Motown" name tag, a ratty hat stuffed in a pocket
somewhere, boots that had been run through the garbage disposal,
sleeves up above his elbows, collar turned up...your basic, one each,
manly man doing manly things in a manly manner.

The Wing King just happened to be flying with that squadron that day.
Wing King noticed Motown, and greeted him and asked if he was a Navy
exchange pilot.

"Yes sir."

Wing King asked how long Motown had been in the Navy.

"Oh I'm not in the Navy, I'm an AF pilot on an exchange tour WITH the
Navy."

[pause for effect...] At this point the WK turned to the Sqdn CO and
just nodded...the Sqdn CO nodded. Motown got "squared away" ASAP.

Motown enjoyed his cruise on the Ranger. In fact at one point one guy
borrowed Motown's "100 Traps on the Ranger" patch and had 24 made up
that said, "I've Heard 100 Ranger Stories" For some strange reason
Motown stopped talking about the boat when we started wearing our
patches.

Motown also loved to call the squadron commander "skipper." The chorus
in response was usually, "Gilligan!" or "What is it little buddy?"

Juvat

It is a power on approach, on speed angle of attack, constant attitude until
touchdown followed by full power at touchdown whether ya got a wire or not.

That's what I thought. Thanks.

I think the early jet, straight deck boys did a 'cut' pass-no?

Don't know, but with a/c up ahead on the straight deck, I would guess
so.

With some of the centrifical type engines, like in the F-9, I'm sure it was 'interesting'.

As you probably know, when Charleton Heston has a ramp strike in his
SBD, in the movie "Midway," it was really an F9F. I''ve heard the
pilot survived that, but I'm sure it was "interesting."

vince norris

f4phantom- n 1987 stationed at Kunsan, a new arrival was an AF type whose
previous tour was an exchange with VF-2 (I think) aboard the
Ranger...Bob "Motown" Records. BRBR

Great story, too bad Motown was put thru the USAF 'shredder' so fast. Hopefully
he didn't forget the good things he learned in the USN about how to fly.


P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

vpn- 1. Aren't all jet engines slow in responding when the throttle is
pushed forward? (Isn't that why full power is applied when hitting
the deck?)

Depends-Smaller diameter turbojet engines had very quick spool up. Not like a
prop but fast. Bigger diameter engines and turbofans, VERY large diameter were
definately slower, but you learned how to 'fly' the engine you had.

2. Is the engine idling when a jet approaches the ramp? I thought
it was a powered approach. Would a prudent pilot cut the power to
idle, if a little high, if the engines respond slowly? Seems to me if
he were that high, it would be smart to start a go-round.

It is a power on approach, on speed angle of attack, constant attitude until
touchdown followed by full power at touchdown whether ya got a wire or not.

I think the early jet, straight deck boys did a 'cut' pass-no? With some of the
centrifical type engines, like in the F-9, I'm sure it was 'interesting'.

vince norris





BRBR

P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Pechs1" wrote in message
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I guess that's the other thing I remember about 'some' USAF types,
their lack of a sense of humor.


Oh, they have it, it's just more sophisticated.


We've got a lot of USAF posters in the halls here at the Air Force Research
Laboratory Rome Research Site (formerly Griffiss AFB). Many say "America's
Air Force-No One Comes Close." When I asked a colonel if the last phrase was
about their personal hygiene, he quickly replied that it referred to their
bombing accuracy.

Joe




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Speaking of the Air Force, I will never forget my AF captain neighbor at
grad school. Three rows of ribbons and he had never been outside CONUS.
Whereas us Navy and Marine pukes were studying such exciting subjects as
space flight, aerodynamics, thermodynamics, etc. he was immersed in MEDIEVAL
history. And that's a fact!

WDA

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"Shaber CJ" wrote in message
...
Only in Navy Air do you get a single last shot to come aboard a pitching,
rolling carrier by flying under a steel cable into a nylon net strung
above
the deck. And survive to brag about it! (just remember to pull that
parachute pack out of your puckered sphincter before you deplane.

WDA
CDR USN

Gosh, that sounds fun for a while, but coming home to one's wife and kids
nighly sounds even better than spending 6-9 months on a boat full of men.

And while it may not technically be fun, there is a sense of accomplishment
once your done.

So is taking a HUGE dump.


Hmmm, at least in the bomber community, taking a dump is not considered an
accomplishment.....I always suspected it was in the fighter community though...


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

On 11 Mar 2004 22:47:55 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:


Hmmm, at least in the bomber community, taking a dump is not considered an
accomplishment.....I always suspected it was in the fighter community though...


BUFDRVR

Certainly in the airplane it is....

Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

Hmmm, at least in the bomber community, taking a dump is not considered an
accomplishment.....I always suspected it was in the fighter community
though...


BUFDRVR

Certainly in the airplane it is....

I've heard audio of that....didn't sound like either guy (F-15E or F-16D)
thought it was an accomplishment


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"