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New IFR Pilot!
Hey all... just figured I'd share that I passed my IFR checkride a
week or so ago. If anything, actually passing made me more leery of going out on own. Don't want hubris, but need to figure out what I can do. Just as a side note, I got to use it a bit last weekend coming back from Ohio. VFR at departure and destination, soupy for an hour enroute over WV. Got to play with light ice at 9000'. I had an out though, as the MEA was 5000' and there wasn't ice below 8500'. Good, "relatively safe" learning experience, I think. Anyway, just thought I'd share. -Cory -- ************************************************** *********************** * The prime directive of Linux: * * - learn what you don't know, * * - teach what you do. * * (Just my 20 USm$) * ************************************************** *********************** |
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Hey all... just figured I'd share that I passed my IFR checkride a week or so ago. Congratulations; you are now a duly authorized member of CLAGG, the Congress of Legally Authorized Gauge Gazers. Now go file and fly somewhere! -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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"Hilton" wrote in message ink.net... wrote: Hey all... just figured I'd share that I passed my IFR checkride a week or so ago. If anything, actually passing made me more leery of going out on own. Don't want hubris, but need to figure out what I can do. Just as a side note, I got to use it a bit last weekend coming back from Ohio. VFR at departure and destination, soupy for an hour enroute over WV. Got to play with light ice at 9000'. I had an out though, as the MEA was 5000' and there wasn't ice below 8500'. Good, "relatively safe" learning experience, I think. Perhaps it's just me, but hearing "passed my IFR checkride a week or so ago", "Got to play with light ice...", and "safe learning experience" in the same short post... My advice: 1. You just got your certificate - be safe(r). 2. Don't play with ice - it kills. 3. That was not a safe learning experience. It was an experience, right after getting your certificate, that tucked away a thought in your head that "it is safe to fly in light ice", and the more of these types of experiences you tuck away, the more slippery the icy slope becomes - so to speak. You broke FARs, you were not operating within the limitations of your POH, and this was not a safe learning experience. Don't think for a minute it was anything other. Hilton Actually this is an interesting subject for discussion in the group. I would agree that if I were getting any Ice at 9000 and I could ask for 7000 I would. However here in California if you "operate within FAR's and POH about forcast icing" then your IFR ticket becomes basically a "fog license". So is "light ice" a part of IFR flying or do we just stay out of the clouds below 5 degrees C. The situation may be different in the midwest and northwest where significant IFR conditions may exist without icing conditions being present. Howard --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 10/9/03 |
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In my own defense, I would like to say that a bit of enroute IFR
shortly after obtaining the ticket is exactly what I was looking for in a "safe learning experience." I knew I didn't need to worry about the weather at the end, so I could work on working the system. The light ice was unexpected, but with 10 degree of temperature separation between the icing at freezing altitude and the MEA enroute, it was about as "safe" as an icing experience can be. Besides, unless you mothball the plane from October to May, ice is something that you might accidentally find yourself in. In a higher stress situation, the overrich mixture engine miss I experienced while climbing from 7-9 with carb heat might have required more neurons than I could spare. Now this goes in the memory bank to poll later. : 1. You just got your certificate - be safe(r). VFR only? Aside from the unexpected ice, that's about the only thing safer than some enroute soup. : 2. Don't play with ice - it kills. Yes it does. This flight taught me to respect how quickly ice can be found, even when unexpected. Since I'm not willing to stop flying for 6 months when it's possible to do so, I'm trying to learn more about icing potential, etc. : 3. That was not a safe learning experience. It was an experience, right : after getting your certificate, that tucked away a thought in your head that : "it is safe to fly in light ice", and the more of these types of experiences : you tuck away, the more slippery the icy slope becomes - so to speak. Again, I maintain that it was as safe as an accidental encounter with ice could be. : You broke FARs, you were not operating within the limitations of your POH, : and this was not a safe learning experience. Don't think for a minute it : was anything other. There are *huge* discussions elsewhere about whether "flights into known icing conditions" mean "conditions favorable to icining" or actual reports of icing. : Just my view... Which you are entitled to, and I (somewhat) agree. It's about managing risks and I'm certainly not about to go trapsing around looking to turn my Cherokee into a popsicle. : BTW: Congratulations on getting your Instrument Rating. Thanks... -Cory -- ************************************************** *********************** * The prime directive of Linux: * * - learn what you don't know, * * - teach what you do. * * (Just my 20 USm$) * ************************************************** *********************** |
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wrote in message ... In my own defense, I would like to say that a bit of enroute IFR shortly after obtaining the ticket is exactly what I was looking for in a "safe learning experience." I knew I didn't need to worry about the weather at the end, so I could work on working the system. The light ice was unexpected, but with 10 degree of temperature separation between the icing at freezing altitude and the MEA enroute, it was about as "safe" as an icing experience can be. Besides, unless you mothball the plane from October to May, ice is something that you might accidentally find yourself in. In a higher stress situation, the overrich mixture engine miss I experienced while climbing from 7-9 with carb heat might have required more neurons than I could spare. Now this goes in the memory bank to poll later. : 1. You just got your certificate - be safe(r). VFR only? Aside from the unexpected ice, that's about the only thing safer than some enroute soup. : 2. Don't play with ice - it kills. Yes it does. This flight taught me to respect how quickly ice can be found, even when unexpected. Since I'm not willing to stop flying for 6 months when it's possible to do so, I'm trying to learn more about icing potential, etc. Then you should know that icing is statistical in nature and you should leave those conditions promoting icing; as soon as possible. |
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