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In article ne.com,
Andrew Gideon wrote: Even if the latter, why do you view the palmtop as less safe? Size of the display? Reliability of the device? Something else? What would the electronic device need to be/do/have/etc. for you to consider it at least equally safe as paper? The PocketPC is just as "safe" as paper as long as you properly brief the approach. The PocketPC is legal to use instead of paper. Now, if you were single-pilot IFR without an autopilot, properly briefing the approach on the PocketPC would certainly be a challenge, in my opinion. JKG |
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In article . net,
"Hilton" wrote: I just want to be able to see all the information clearly - simple as that. During an approach, you're looking at the top for the frequencies, at the bottom for the minimums and missed instructions, also looking at the chart for step downs, intersections, VOR frequencies, radials etc etc etc. Basically, I believe that during an approach, a pilot is referencing the *entire* plate and I have to assume that the added task of scrolling on a small device while in IMC on an approach is adding an unnecessary task/distraction. I guess I'm different. I almost NEVER reference the plate during the approach. I brief the approach prior to commencement and memorize the inbound course, step downs, and MDA/DH. I ignore the missed instructions until I'm actually on the missed (hint: step #1 is always CLIMB). That being said, I do prefer to have the plate in front of me, and I rarely fly single-pilot IFR. I usually have the non-flying pilot brief the approach for me and then hand me the plate. Maybe that's cheating. JKG |
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"Hilton" wrote in message =
ink.net... =20 I just want to be able to see all the information clearly - simple as = that. During an approach, you're looking at the top for the frequencies, at = the bottom for the minimums and missed instructions, also looking at the = chart for step downs, intersections, VOR frequencies, radials etc etc etc. Basically, I believe that during an approach, a pilot is referencing = the *entire* plate and I have to assume that the added task of scrolling = on a small device while in IMC on an approach is adding an unnecessary task/distraction. =20 Hilton Hilton, I agree with your view, but I've always thought that Jeppesen's "Briefing Strip" addition to the top of their charts was a good summary = of the information we previously had to be scanning around the chart for. Where the plan view of an approach is displayed on the panel GPS, the Briefing Strip supplies the bulk of all else you need for many = approaches. Exceptions abound, like multiple stepdown fixes, for example, where the Briefing Strip isn't enough by itself, but is a big aid = nonetheless. One case of that is the VOR-DME into KASE, Aspen, Colorado. Its profile shows four stepdown points, but only ALLIX is in the = Briefing Strip. |
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On 9/11/2005 7:39 PM, Jonathan Goodish wrote the following: In article , Mitty wrote: That being said, I like the fact that there is no ongoing subscription cost. That was the clincher for me. That's true, but who knows how long Seattle Avionics is going to be around? Based on the published bio of its CEO, it sounds like he basically specializes in starting companies and then selling them. The SA product DOES, however, let you grab the plate updates from the FAA instead of the SA server, which is nice. Yes, that was a factor for me. I figured I was safe. But it appears that the software talks to the mother ship to get some kind of database update before it actually goes for plates. So that may mean that the thing dies if the mother ship sinks. I hope to not find out. |
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Andrew wrote:
Hilton wrote: I just want to be able to see all the information clearly - simple as that. So it's the display size and quality, yes? Yes, my primary concern is the display size and quality. Not so much the size per se, but the fact that the pilot cannot see all the information at once, quckly, without scrolling. Hilton |
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Have you tried www.myairplane.com? They have IFR and VFR charts for
the iPAQ. I have used their software in the past, and it is pretty good. Price is only $30 for a single cycle. I usually don't bother keeping the charts up to date because I use them in conjunction with paper charts. |
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Mitty wrote:
IMHO relying on almost anything from Microsoft is a bad design decision for many reasons Now your comments are much more understandable now. You have no technical backing for your comments, but since it runs on a MS platform using MS technology, it must be a poor product. That makes sense. -- John T http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415 Reduce spam. Use Sender Policy Framework: http://spf.pobox.com ____________________ |
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Jonathan,
That's true, but who knows how long Seattle Avionics is going to be around? Based on the published bio of its CEO, it sounds like he basically specializes in starting companies and then selling them. The SA product DOES, however, let you grab the plate updates from the FAA instead of the SA server, which is nice. Not really. If the FAA changes one character, then the software vendor (e.g. SA) has to update all their programs or have some way to tell their program where to find the actual data. It has happened before, and it'll happen again. Things change a lot more often than you think - a well designed program hides this from you. The way we've written the new *free* WingX Browser (Weather Service) for the Pocket PC is to grab all the data on our server and make it available to the WingX Browser clients. That way, if anything changes on the 3rd party server, the worst our pilots will experience is a minor hickup while we re-direct our code - no updates required by the user, in fact they may never know anything changed. The key to all this is that you are dependant on your software vendor. If the company get sold, goes under, etc, your downloads will stop working sooner or later and you won't get any updates. Hilton FYI: By *free* I mean no signup, no registration, no fees, nothing, zippo, zilch. |
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In article et,
"Hilton" wrote: Not really. If the FAA changes one character, then the software vendor (e.g. SA) has to update all their programs or have some way to tell their program where to find the actual data. It has happened before, and it'll happen again. Things change a lot more often than you think - a well designed program hides this from you. I disagree. First of all, the optimal way to obtain the updates is from the SA server, but they are compressed. You can obtain the uncompressed diagrams from the FAA server. I can't recall whether the SA program permits you to change the server address, but it would be ideal if it did. JKG |
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Jonathan Goodish wrote:
Hilton wrote: Not really. If the FAA changes one character, then the software vendor (e.g. SA) has to update all their programs or have some way to tell their program where to find the actual data. It has happened before, and it'll happen again. Things change a lot more often than you think - a well designed program hides this from you. I disagree. First of all, the optimal way to obtain the updates is from the SA server, but they are compressed. You can obtain the uncompressed diagrams from the FAA server. I can't recall whether the SA program permits you to change the server address, but it would be ideal if it did. I think that's what I said. I know SA advertises 5x compression, has anyone verified this? Just curious. Hilton |
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