New Naval Air Station to be built at Bugtussle, Alabama?

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Yofuri wrote:

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??? The story you point to is about NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach
being on the closure list. There is nothing in the story about
Alabama. Did you quote the wrong article?

-john-

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John A. Weeks III wrote:
In article ,
Yofuri wrote:


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??? The story you point to is about NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach
being on the closure list. There is nothing in the story about
Alabama. Did you quote the wrong article?

-john-

Sorry for the confusion. It was intended as tongue-in-cheek speculation
as to Oceana's BRAC-directed relocation.

Ric

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Interesting. The BRAC directed closure unless Va Beach performed a number
of actions to relieve encroachment around Oceana. Cecil was offered as an
alternative location if Va Beach could/would not comply. Evidently the
back-room boys who dreamed up this scenario didn't asked the Jacksonville
local population ... apparently they don't WANT a master jet base any more
and are quite happy with the current field usage.

Sooo ... given there's no real alternative for Oceana's assets to be
relocated, what does the Navy do? (I know, one of the commissioners
suggested Kingsville ... must be on the Texas payroll, he also vigorously
and unsuccessfully defended Ingleside ... but that dog won't hunt.) I
suspect Oceana will be with us, and heavily encroached, for a long time.

R / John

John Carrier wrote:
... I
suspect Oceana will be with us, and heavily encroached, for a long time.

And over on the other coast, there's the ever-continuing issue of
making Miramar joint-use and/or simply turning it into the new SDiego
airport.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...23airport.html

One thing which didn't take place w/ Miramar over the years was
"complete" encroachment. The military got lucky on that point.

MW

"John Carrier" wrote...
Interesting. The BRAC directed closure unless Va Beach performed a number
of actions to relieve encroachment around Oceana. Cecil was offered as an
alternative location if Va Beach could/would not comply. Evidently the
back-room boys who dreamed up this scenario didn't asked the Jacksonville
local population ... apparently they don't WANT a master jet base any more
and are quite happy with the current field usage.

Yet another example of how this BRAC thing was out of control from the start!
Though nominally "independent," the BRAC Commission was still subject to massive
campaigning and lobbying from special-interest groups from all camps.

When Cecil was closed, it had nowhere NEAR the encroachment that Oceana had! I
haven't been there in years, but I suspect the growth even to the east is STILL
nowhere near the 1980s development around Oceana! I still wonder how it came to
be that Cecil was closed instead...


Sooo ... given there's no real alternative for Oceana's assets to be
relocated, what does the Navy do? (I know, one of the commissioners
suggested Kingsville ... must be on the Texas payroll, he also vigorously
and unsuccessfully defended Ingleside ... but that dog won't hunt.) I
suspect Oceana will be with us, and heavily encroached, for a long time.

There's still Cheerless Pit, but I suspect the Marines STILL don't want the Navy
invading and corrupting "their" turf...

Meridian? Consolidate all the training at Kingsville, and give Meridian to the
fleet!

Maybe there's a stray Air Force base or 2 that is up for closing, but would
really rather have the Navy than nothing...

John,

given there's no real alternative for Oceana's assets to be relocated, what does the Navy do?

Reactivate NAS New Iberia, LA? BG

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"John Carrier" wrote in message ...
Interesting. The BRAC directed closure unless Va Beach performed a number
of actions to relieve encroachment around Oceana. Cecil was offered as an
alternative location if Va Beach could/would not comply. Evidently the
back-room boys who dreamed up this scenario didn't asked the Jacksonville
local population ... apparently they don't WANT a master jet base any more
and are quite happy with the current field usage.

Sooo ... given there's no real alternative for Oceana's assets to be
relocated, what does the Navy do? (I know, one of the commissioners
suggested Kingsville ... must be on the Texas payroll, he also vigorously
and unsuccessfully defended Ingleside ... but that dog won't hunt.) I
suspect Oceana will be with us, and heavily encroached, for a long time.

R / John

Mike W.

One thing which didn't take place w/ Miramar over the years was "complete" encroachment. The military got lucky on that point.


Um...with the quantum leap in helo ops at Miramar (that's where the MCAS Santa Ana folks went), I've heard that the locals are complaining like never before, from areas that these low-flying, JP5-to-noise converters traverse on their way to Camp Pendleton.

"Encroachment" in reverse.

--
Mike Kanze

"The real accomplishment of 'The Da Vinci Code' is that Dan Brown has proven that the theory of conspiracy theories is totally elastic, it has no limits."

- Daniel Henninger, WALL STREET JOURNAL - 5/19/06

"Mike Weeks" wrote in message oups.com...

John Carrier wrote:
... I
suspect Oceana will be with us, and heavily encroached, for a long time.

And over on the other coast, there's the ever-continuing issue of
making Miramar joint-use and/or simply turning it into the new SDiego
airport.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...23airport.html

One thing which didn't take place w/ Miramar over the years was
"complete" encroachment. The military got lucky on that point.

MW

"Mike Kanze" wrote...

given there's no real alternative for Oceana's assets to be relocated, what
does the Navy do?

Reactivate NAS New Iberia, LA? BG

The Flying Tabascos!

SNIP
There's still Cheerless Pit, but I suspect the Marines STILL don't want
the Navy invading and corrupting "their" turf...


Probably the most viable, but there are wildlife sanctuary issues IIRC.

Meridian? Consolidate all the training at Kingsville, and give Meridian
to the fleet!

Great training base, good for a reserve squadron or two. Location sucks for
fleet for numerous reasons.
Kingsville is similar, although it has access to a warning area.

Maybe there's a stray Air Force base or 2 that is up for closing, but
would really rather have the Navy than nothing...

They looked at that. Nuthin'!

R / John