Sec. of State Rice warns Russia about Bombers off Alaska

tankfixer wrote:
In article 51af37c0-b1a4-41df-82f2-
, says...
On Aug 20, 6:44?am, Vincent wrote:
Rob Arndt wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:02 pm, george wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:35 pm, Tiger wrote:
Rice warns Moscow about its bomber runs off Alaska
As if that's never happened before.
Unless they encroach upon US airspace there's not a lot can be done.
Unless Conny wants to start WW3
So what? Sounds like Condi has more ****ing balls than you do. What do
you do when a hunter with a rifle encounters a hostile bear? Drop his
gun and get into the fetal position hoping it will just sniff around
you and leave? No, you aim and shoot the ****er dead.
People like you make me sick; you know, the ones that always wanna
negotiate peace with terrorists, rouge nations, dictators, and
anything of Slavic origin.
Rob
Lets assume its a Grizzly and and you have a .22

That is what takes balls

Vince- Hide quoted text -

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Bad analogy. If hunter is US vs Russian Bear the gun is anything from
a .50 cal rifle to a 40mm Grenade launcher to a flame thrower.

Where is the vaunted USAF which is able to defeat any foe, anwhere?
Apparently not over Georgian skies but in hiding or under repair.

Same for US ground and naval forces- former has no troops to send
anyway as it cannot even manage Afghanistan nor Iraq nor US borders
and the latter would be ineffectual.*

Why is it there were more non-combat deaths in Iraq last month than ones
resulting from combat ?


Because the Iraqi view us as no longer relevant and and are biding
their time before we leave and they can kill one another to their hearts

Sectarian Bias Alleged In Iraqi Raids in Diyala
Security Forces Storm Governor's Office


By Zaid Sabah and Sudarsan Raghavan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, August 20, 2008; Page A09

BAGHDAD, Aug 19 -- Iraqi security forces raided the governor's office in
restive Diyala province Tuesday, killing an official and injuring four
guards. A Sunni provincial council member and the Sunni president of
Diyala University were also arrested, prompting accusations of sectarian
bias on the part of the Shiite-dominated security forces.

Local officials declared three days of mourning and protested the raids.
In response to the tensions, security officials imposed a curfew on
Baqubah, the provincial capital.

The arrests threatened to deepen Sunni frustrations in Diyala, which is
largely led by Shiites but has a predominantly Sunni population.
U.S.-backed Sunni fighters who turned against the insurgent group
al-Qaeda in Iraq have for months expressed resentment at arrests and
crackdowns by the Shiite-led police force

etcetera

Vince

On Aug 20, 4:13 pm, Rob Arndt wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:02 pm, george wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:35 pm, Tiger wrote:

Rice warns Moscow about its bomber runs off Alaska

As if that's never happened before.
Unless they encroach upon US airspace there's not a lot can be done.
Unless Conny wants to start WW3

So what? Sounds like Condi has more ****ing balls than you do. What do
you do when a hunter with a rifle encounters a hostile bear? Drop his
gun and get into the fetal position hoping it will just sniff around
you and leave? No, you aim and shoot the ****er dead.

You obviously are unaware of how to make sure that you don't encounter
a bear.
Shooting the bear is a last resort



People like you make me sick; you know, the ones that always wanna
negotiate peace with terrorists, rouge nations, dictators, and
anything of Slavic origin.



When you have finished interviewing your own interpretation of the
world do try to actually read what was posted.
And does lipstick come with the rouge ?
Sheesh

Rob Arndt wrote:
On Aug 20, 12:32�pm, Dan wrote:
Rob Arndt wrote:
On Aug 20, 6:44 am, Vincent wrote:
Rob Arndt wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:02 pm, george wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:35 pm, Tiger wrote:
Rice warns Moscow about its bomber runs off Alaska
As if that's never happened before.
Unless they encroach upon US airspace there's not a lot can be done.
Unless Conny wants to start WW3
So what? Sounds like Condi has more ****ing balls than you do. What do
you do when a hunter with a rifle encounters a hostile bear? Drop his
gun and get into the fetal position hoping it will just sniff around
you and leave? No, you aim and shoot the ****er dead.
People like you make me sick; you know, the ones that always wanna
negotiate peace with terrorists, rouge nations, dictators, and
anything of Slavic origin.
Rob
Lets assume its a Grizzly and and you have a .22
That is what takes balls
Vince- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Bad analogy. If hunter is US vs Russian Bear the gun is anything from
a .50 cal rifle to a 40mm Grenade launcher to a flame thrower.
Where is the vaunted USAF which is able to defeat any foe, anwhere?
Apparently not over Georgian skies but in hiding or under repair.
� �Where is the treaty or pact that requires or allows USAF involvement?
For that matter, if you feel so strongly why aren't YOU volunteering?
It's easy for you to accuse servicemen of being cowards since you you
are safe behind your modem.

� �Tell us how USAF involvement beyond what is currently going on would
change things. Would it make you happy for the USAF to shoot down
Russian aircraft?



Same for US ground and naval forces- former has no troops to send
anyway as it cannot even manage Afghanistan nor Iraq nor US borders
and the latter would be ineffectual.*
Rob
* Bush won't even send a hospital ship to the Black Sea.
� It has been determined the Comfort isn't needed at this time, genius.
Turkey hasn't said she would allow the Comfort to pass anyway.

� Are you aware the USAF is making several flights a day into Georgia
with relief? I guess that doesn't count because you'd prefer war.

� Where are your heroes the Germans? Hiding under their beds?

� For that matter, have you ever said anything positive about the U.S.
and when did you say it?

� Amazing how someone who has never had to face any risk in her life
insults those who do it every day, isn't it?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired- Hide quoted text -

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A single C-17 does not qualify as any real relief effort, nor a C-9...

Stop making excuses...

Rob

What did you expect the U.S. military to do? Suppose the USAF went
to Georgia and shot down every Russian airplane and destroyed all the
Russian ground forces, then what? Do you seriously expect the Russians
to stop at that point? Do you really want the U.S. to engage in direct
war with Russia?

There's more than one C-17 involved. Why bring up C-9? They are all
long retired.

Where are your beloved Germans?

Have you ever said anything positive about the U.S. and when did you
say it?

Do you have the slightest idea how pathetic you sound?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Aug 21, 8:31 am, tankfixer wrote:

You know it's not too late to step up and make something of yourself.
Have your mom drive you to a recruiting station this afternoon

We have/had a term for such living room warriors.
We called them 'B' Battalion (or 'B' Watch)
They'll 'B' here when we go and they'll 'B' here when we come back..

tankfixer wrote:
In article 2241bea1-0d40-4ab9-963f-
, says...
On Aug 20, 1:01?pm, tankfixer wrote:
In article 284a5176-e895-4a2a-a622-0a39b7cea6b6
@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, says...





On Aug 19, 10:12?pm, tankfixer wrote:
In article 09eb4f53-09f5-475a-86a5-
, says...
On Aug 19, 9:02?pm, george wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:35 pm, Tiger wrote:
Rice warns Moscow about its bomber runs off Alaska
As if that's never happened before.
Unless they encroach upon US airspace there's not a lot can be done.
Unless Conny wants to start WW3
Russia claims Georgian "provocation" for the invasion of that nation
and now Polish "provocation" with the missile deal in progress- making
them a Russian target.
Let's play that game and say Russian Bears around Alaska are
"provocation" and splash a few
Fortunately we never could be bothered to volunteer to serve so we are
safe from your delusions.
So working on a M-60 somehow makes you both a political analyst and
military strategist?
It gives one a perspective you will never aquire.

You assume it's the only job I've ever had in the military.



Dream on, Tinkerbell.
Everything on this NG is opinion anyway.
Much of ill-informed and outright silly.



All you are doing in sitting on your ass and hoping resurgent Russian
military power/aggression will just go away.
No, I'm not offering stupid opinions based on incomplete and half true
news reports.
That is folly.



Congratulations, you are now a Canadian or European
And I would still be a better man than you ....

Says you- from the safety of your trailer or a basement...

Projecting again are you Rob ?

You know it's not too late to step up and make something of yourself.
Have your mom drive you to a recruiting station this afternoon


I don't think that will happen. Aren't is a coward and her mother
wouldn't do her any favours if she ever finds out aren't called her an
idiot her in RAM a few years ago. Actually she called both her parents
idiots.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

In article pc%qk.299$w51.178@trnddc01, says...
tankfixer wrote:
In article 51af37c0-b1a4-41df-82f2-
, says...
On Aug 20, 6:44?am, Vincent wrote:
Rob Arndt wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:02 pm, george wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:35 pm, Tiger wrote:
Rice warns Moscow about its bomber runs off Alaska
As if that's never happened before.
Unless they encroach upon US airspace there's not a lot can be done.
Unless Conny wants to start WW3
So what? Sounds like Condi has more ****ing balls than you do. What do
you do when a hunter with a rifle encounters a hostile bear? Drop his
gun and get into the fetal position hoping it will just sniff around
you and leave? No, you aim and shoot the ****er dead.
People like you make me sick; you know, the ones that always wanna
negotiate peace with terrorists, rouge nations, dictators, and
anything of Slavic origin.
Rob
Lets assume its a Grizzly and and you have a .22

That is what takes balls

Vince- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Bad analogy. If hunter is US vs Russian Bear the gun is anything from
a .50 cal rifle to a 40mm Grenade launcher to a flame thrower.

Where is the vaunted USAF which is able to defeat any foe, anwhere?
Apparently not over Georgian skies but in hiding or under repair.

Same for US ground and naval forces- former has no troops to send
anyway as it cannot even manage Afghanistan nor Iraq nor US borders
and the latter would be ineffectual.*

Why is it there were more non-combat deaths in Iraq last month than ones
resulting from combat ?


Because the Iraqi view us as no longer relevant and and are biding
their time before we leave and they can kill one another to their hearts

That is a possible explanation.



Sectarian Bias Alleged In Iraqi Raids in Diyala
Security Forces Storm Governor's Office


By Zaid Sabah and Sudarsan Raghavan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, August 20, 2008; Page A09

BAGHDAD, Aug 19 -- Iraqi security forces raided the governor's office in
restive Diyala province Tuesday, killing an official and injuring four
guards. A Sunni provincial council member and the Sunni president of
Diyala University were also arrested, prompting accusations of sectarian
bias on the part of the Shiite-dominated security forces.

Local officials declared three days of mourning and protested the raids.
In response to the tensions, security officials imposed a curfew on
Baqubah, the provincial capital.

The arrests threatened to deepen Sunni frustrations in Diyala, which is
largely led by Shiites but has a predominantly Sunni population.
U.S.-backed Sunni fighters who turned against the insurgent group
al-Qaeda in Iraq have for months expressed resentment at arrests and
crackdowns by the Shiite-led police force


--
Meddle ye not in the Affairs of Dragons, for Thou art Crunchy and taste
Goode with Ketchup.

In article 615855b5-7128-45ba-a95c-
, says...
On Aug 21, 8:31 am, tankfixer wrote:

You know it's not too late to step up and make something of yourself.
Have your mom drive you to a recruiting station this afternoon

We have/had a term for such living room warriors.
We called them 'B' Battalion (or 'B' Watch)
They'll 'B' here when we go and they'll 'B' here when we come back..

Rob's one of those who had better things to do with his life than
volunteer for anything.




--
Meddle ye not in the Affairs of Dragons, for Thou art Crunchy and taste
Goode with Ketchup.

In article , says...
tankfixer wrote:
In article 2241bea1-0d40-4ab9-963f-
, says...
On Aug 20, 1:01?pm, tankfixer wrote:
In article 284a5176-e895-4a2a-a622-0a39b7cea6b6
@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, says...





On Aug 19, 10:12?pm, tankfixer wrote:
In article 09eb4f53-09f5-475a-86a5-
, says...
On Aug 19, 9:02?pm, george wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:35 pm, Tiger wrote:
Rice warns Moscow about its bomber runs off Alaska
As if that's never happened before.
Unless they encroach upon US airspace there's not a lot can be done.
Unless Conny wants to start WW3
Russia claims Georgian "provocation" for the invasion of that nation
and now Polish "provocation" with the missile deal in progress- making
them a Russian target.
Let's play that game and say Russian Bears around Alaska are
"provocation" and splash a few
Fortunately we never could be bothered to volunteer to serve so we are
safe from your delusions.
So working on a M-60 somehow makes you both a political analyst and
military strategist?
It gives one a perspective you will never aquire.

You assume it's the only job I've ever had in the military.



Dream on, Tinkerbell.
Everything on this NG is opinion anyway.
Much of ill-informed and outright silly.



All you are doing in sitting on your ass and hoping resurgent Russian
military power/aggression will just go away.
No, I'm not offering stupid opinions based on incomplete and half true
news reports.
That is folly.



Congratulations, you are now a Canadian or European
And I would still be a better man than you ....

Says you- from the safety of your trailer or a basement...

Projecting again are you Rob ?

You know it's not too late to step up and make something of yourself.
Have your mom drive you to a recruiting station this afternoon


I don't think that will happen. Aren't is a coward and her mother
wouldn't do her any favours if she ever finds out aren't called her an
idiot her in RAM a few years ago. Actually she called both her parents
idiots.



I guess the boy can take the bus then..

--
Meddle ye not in the Affairs of Dragons, for Thou art Crunchy and taste
Goode with Ketchup.

In article ,
tankfixer wrote:

In article 78e81164-22b5-4cce-9c65-
, says...

Stop making excuses...

Stop being stupid.

It's all he's got left.

In article ,
NVALID says...
In article ,
tankfixer wrote:

In article 78e81164-22b5-4cce-9c65-
, says...

Stop making excuses...

Stop being stupid.

It's all he's got left.

So it seems.


--
Meddle ye not in the Affairs of Dragons, for Thou art Crunchy and taste
Goode with Ketchup.