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Old October 10th 18, 01:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 6:39:12 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 5:38:39 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 5:14:16 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 12:55:09 PM UTC-7, Ben Hirashima wrote:
Have you seen an iPhone X display in sunlight? I find it perfectly readable. Technology is constantly improving...

thank you Ben, I did look at an iphone X at max brightness, but didn't consider it any better than my iphone 8+. I do manage to use Foreflight on my iphone 8+, but it is a struggle, not what I call 'easily readable' in my cockpit, as my LX moving map is. I'm in Nevada, where the sun is very bright, even with a blue canopy. I want a panel mounted, dedicated, bright display for adsb targets.

PowerFLARM connected to a AirAvionic ATD is likely the best you will get there.

No UAT In/TIS-B/ADS-R support, but them are the tradeoffs.

Its enormously more expensive to buy the AirAvionic adsb/flarm receiver that works with their ATD57, so I won't be doing that. I suspect AirAvionic is not providing an adsb protocol is some business reason they have to support Flarm. In my opinion, in the US, Flarm is a harmful distraction of money better spent on adsb.

I mentioned the PowerFLARM and AirAvionic ATD (ATD57) display. In the USA if you want to get a traffic display to a FLARM serial compatible display today that is how you do it. There is no AirAvionic FLARM device similar to PowerFLARM actually FCC approved for use in the USA and AirAvionic don't seem to care much about USA/FAA ADS-B requirements or FCC device approval so I'd not hold my breath there. The next FLARM device I expect to be FCC approved in the USA is the LXNav PowerMouse.

The PowerMouse uses a later generation FLARM ADS-B chipset than PowerFLARM and should support ADS-R and hopefully TIS-B. And hopefully LXNav will only sell the version with ADS-B (as well as FLARM() in the USA.

The choice is yours, if you want to use a FLARM display you need to drive that with a device that talks FLARM serial protocol, if you want to talk to a GDL compatible display you can use a suitable GDL compatible ADS-B source, But I don't undated why a glider flying in glider-busy Nevada would not want a FLARM system more so than ADS-B *In*. Transponder and ADS-B Out give you lots of protection to other aircraft as well.

Hi Daryl, thanks for your comments as usual. I'd have both systems (Flarm and adsb) in my glider if money and battery power and panel area were free. But having invested in a Trig 22 (which I felt was essential, much more than flarm, when moving to Minden) and recently having added adsb-out, I feel my best course forward is to get adsb-in. Adsb recieivers are cheap, but nice displays like ATD57 won't work with them, they only accept proprietary flarm protocol. I wonder why, it seems against market wishes. I personally feel that Flarm was a great early solution, but will soon be wasted money in the USA. In fact its even harmful, in syphoning money better spend on adsb.. I think flarm's promise of 'safe gaggling' is not realistic now, if it ever was, since not all gliders do or will have flarm in the US.


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