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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
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Victory Field, Lancaster, CA 1945 Robert Dean Link collection. Don "Ken Gerlach" wrote in message ... Sorry - you must be thinking of color television. Color film was in wide use in the late 1930's in both cinamatic and still photograpy. I know . . . I was there! gkg "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message ... Bob Harrington wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote in news:Xns98B7D4A7D83EFta2eene2 @216.196.97.131: |
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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Bob Harrington wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote in news:Xns98B7D4A7D83EFta2eene2 @216.196.97.131: begin 644 f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg Pretty sure this is a WW2 period color photo... The F-5 shows the 'Haze' paint scheme used by some PR Lightnings. Bob ^,,^ I have seen pictures of WWII. The world was black and white then. The world did not gain color until the mid 1950's. The first modern ('integrated tri-pack') color film, Kodachrome, was introduced in 1935 based on three colored emulsions. Most modern color films, except Kodachrome, are based on technology developed for Agfacolor (as 'Agfacolor Neue') in 1936. Go here for a fascinating and informative history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_photography Would you believe color photos from 1850 ? The National Archives is "almost finished" with a project begun in 1990 to scan ALL color transparencies taken by US military photographers. That includes glass plates from World War One, 8x10" sheets from WW2 and later, and the zillions of color slides in 35mm, 2-1/4x2-1/4 and 70mm sizes from later days including Vietnam. I've always wondered what happened to the hundreds of cassettes of 70mm Kodachrome which I exposed using a Graflex XL over and around the DMZ and such garden spots as Dong Ha. Someone wanted "briefing slides for the Pentagon" and the colonel came to taff Sergeant Mann -- "Hey, let's get Mann to do it, he's crazy, he'll do anything". I'll tell you about the Rolleiflex and the Leica bombs -- the chopper banked like really sharply, I didn't have the gunner's harness attached, the choice was let the cameras go or let me go. Cameras went, 500 feet into the DMZ Cheers, Dave |
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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Bob Harrington wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote in news:Xns98B7D4A7D83EFta2eene2 @216.196.97.131: begin 644 f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg Pretty sure this is a WW2 period color photo... The F-5 shows the 'Haze' paint scheme used by some PR Lightnings. Bob ^,,^ I have seen pictures of WWII. The world was black and white then. The world did not gain color until the mid 1950's. The first modern ('integrated tri-pack') color film, Kodachrome, was introduced in 1935 based on three colored emulsions. Most modern color films, except Kodachrome, are based on technology developed for Agfacolor (as 'Agfacolor Neue') in 1936. Go here for a fascinating and informative history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_photography Would you believe color photos from 1850 ? The National Archives is "almost finished" with a project begun in 1990 to scan ALL color transparencies taken by US military photographers. That includes glass plates from World War One, 8x10" sheets from WW2 and later, and the zillions of color slides in 35mm, 2-1/4x2-1/4 and 70mm sizes from later days including Vietnam. I've always wondered what happened to the hundreds of cassettes of 70mm Kodachrome which I exposed using a Graflex XL over and around the DMZ and such garden spots as Dong Ha. Someone wanted "briefing slides for the Pentagon" and the colonel came to taff Sergeant Mann -- "Hey, let's get Mann to do it, he's crazy, he'll do anything". I'll tell you about the Rolleiflex and the Leica bombs -- the chopper banked like really sharply, I didn't have the gunner's harness attached, the choice was let the cameras go or let me go. Cameras went, 500 feet into the DMZ Cheers, Dave |
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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
CWO4 Dave Mann wrote: snip I'll tell you about the Rolleiflex and the Leica bombs -- the chopper banked like really sharply, I didn't have the gunner's harness attached, the choice was let the cameras go or let me go. Cameras went, 500 feet into the DMZ Cheers, Dave You had a lousy pilot... When I worked on Kwajalein, (ABM R&D), I rode in a Huey tracking chopper nearly half the missions from Oct 1971 through 1975. Usually, I was in the "missile" port side of the chopper but on one occasion, I elected to be on the starboard side so that I could get a "creative" shot of the three other tracking technicians during the launch of a Spartan interceptor. We did several practice runs prior to the actual shot. During each, the chopper would bank deeply in order to keep the target in sight. During the process, the air passing from one side to the other approached hurricane force not to mention the "g's" pulled in recovery. Only one of our pilots flew these types of missions as none of the others would go through with such radical maneuvers. When the "shot" finally came, and we repeated the flight sequence and I got my footage etc and after we recovered, I looked down and noticed that my seat belt was never fastened... Had I had your pilot, the Arri S and I would have gone into the drink from about 3,500 ft. Now, I could tell you about another of our pilots that EVERYONE dread to fly with..... G JT |
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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
CWO4 Dave Mann wrote: snip I'll tell you about the Rolleiflex and the Leica bombs -- the chopper banked like really sharply, I didn't have the gunner's harness attached, the choice was let the cameras go or let me go. Cameras went, 500 feet into the DMZ Cheers, Dave You had a lousy pilot... When I worked on Kwajalein, (ABM R&D), I rode in a Huey tracking chopper nearly half the missions from Oct 1971 through 1975. Usually, I was in the "missile" port side of the chopper but on one occasion, I elected to be on the starboard side so that I could get a "creative" shot of the three other tracking technicians during the launch of a Spartan interceptor. We did several practice runs prior to the actual shot. During each, the chopper would bank deeply in order to keep the target in sight. During the process, the air passing from one side to the other approached hurricane force not to mention the "g's" pulled in recovery. Only one of our pilots flew these types of missions as none of the others would go through with such radical maneuvers. When the "shot" finally came, and we repeated the flight sequence and I got my footage etc and after we recovered, I looked down and noticed that my seat belt was never fastened... Had I had your pilot, the Arri S and I would have gone into the drink from about 3,500 ft. Now, I could tell you about another of our pilots that EVERYONE dread to fly with..... G JT |
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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message ... Bob Harrington wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote in news:Xns98B7D4A7D83EFta2eene2 @216.196.97.131: begin 644 f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg Pretty sure this is a WW2 period color photo... The F-5 shows the 'Haze' paint scheme used by some PR Lightnings. Bob ^,,^ I have seen pictures of WWII. The world was black and white then. The world did not gain color until the mid 1950's. Mitchel, the classics are dead, aren't they? I always liked the snowmen he made! Steve Vernon |
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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message ... Bob Harrington wrote in : Mitchell Holman wrote in news:Xns98B7D4A7D83EFta2eene2 @216.196.97.131: begin 644 f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg Pretty sure this is a WW2 period color photo... The F-5 shows the 'Haze' paint scheme used by some PR Lightnings. Bob ^,,^ I have seen pictures of WWII. The world was black and white then. The world did not gain color until the mid 1950's. Mitchel, the classics are dead, aren't they? I always liked the snowmen he made! Steve Vernon |
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Lightnings Today - f-5b and p-38j-5.jpg (1/1)
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
CWO4 Dave Mann wrote: snip I'll tell you about the Rolleiflex and the Leica bombs -- the chopper banked like really sharply, I didn't have the gunner's harness attached, the choice was let the cameras go or let me go. Cameras went, 500 feet into the DMZ Cheers, Dave You had a lousy pilot... When I worked on Kwajalein, (ABM R&D), I rode in a Huey tracking chopper nearly half the missions from Oct 1971 through 1975. Usually, I was in the "missile" port side of the chopper but on one occasion, I elected to be on the starboard side so that I could get a "creative" shot of the three other tracking technicians during the launch of a Spartan interceptor. We did several practice runs prior to the actual shot. During each, the chopper would bank deeply in order to keep the target in sight. During the process, the air passing from one side to the other approached hurricane force not to mention the "g's" pulled in recovery. Only one of our pilots flew these types of missions as none of the others would go through with such radical maneuvers. When the "shot" finally came, and we repeated the flight sequence and I got my footage etc and after we recovered, I looked down and noticed that my seat belt was never fastened... Had I had your pilot, the Arri S and I would have gone into the drink from about 3,500 ft. Now, I could tell you about another of our pilots that EVERYONE dread to fly with..... G JT Yikes JT! Just when I thought it was safe to come in from the surveillance van parked behing Temp C Building! And speaking of an Arriflex, did I mention that the 116th managed to acquire an Arriflex 16S with three lenses (including a huge telephoto) and made loads of movies. Unfortunately, when I came back to the 116th in early 1972, they had had to get rid of the camera and ALL of those movies -- the old spying on civilians rule. I'll bet John Kerry was in a lot of those videos but we'll never know. Cheers, Dave |
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