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Cessna's new LSA: "Skycatcher"
: I think it's a fine name for a scrap or balsa wood airplane for
: children. Not so great for a full-size aluminum one aimed at adults. : Frankly, I am disappointed in general with the 162. I am a fan of the : light sport segment. I am currently a student working on getting my : sport pilot license. I would have liked to see Cessna come out with : an airplane that at least equaled what the other manufacturers have : developed, if not bettered them. As an American, I want to see : American manufacturers develop superior products. This airplane looks : to be inferior to most other LSA's in useful load and range. It : doesn't include a chute except as an option. It doesn't have safety : features such as a safety cage around the passenger compartment, which : the Tecnam does have. And to top it all off, it's more expensive than : the competition. I think it's unfortunate that it uses the O-200 engine. Don't get me wrong... I like old-school stuff and it's a great fit to a Cessna 140/150. For a brand-new aircraft though, it'd be nice to see some newer technology for the engine. If not liquid-cooling (Rotax) or diesel, at *least* adequate cooling fins to keep exhaust ports from cracking. Why not a Lycoming O-235 like in the 152? -Cory -- ************************************************** *********************** * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * ************************************************** *********************** |
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Cessna's new LSA: "Skycatcher"
"Phil" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 22, 4:42 pm, Jim Logajan wrote: For those who haven't seen this, Cessna has provided lots more detail on its LSA entry: http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/ Fancy brochu http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...ni_bro_web.pdf Order form with pricing (for first 1000): http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...final_0721.pdf I'm sorry, but SkyCatcher?? I think they should have just stuck with Cessna 162 and left it at that. I guess it's better than "Ground Finder". Al G |
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Cessna's new LSA: "Skycatcher"
Al G wrote:
"Phil" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 22, 4:42 pm, Jim Logajan wrote: For those who haven't seen this, Cessna has provided lots more detail on its LSA entry: http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/ Fancy brochu http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...ni_bro_web.pdf Order form with pricing (for first 1000): http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...final_0721.pdf I'm sorry, but SkyCatcher?? I think they should have just stuck with Cessna 162 and left it at that. I guess it's better than "Ground Finder". Al G THe thing is 100 lbs over the empty weight it should be. Maybe "SkyPiggy" would have been a good name. |
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:46:01 +0000 (UTC),
wrote in : I think it's unfortunate that it uses the O-200 engine. IIRC, the Cont O-200 has a TBO of 1,800 hours. Have you checked the TBO on the Rotax? |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:46:01 +0000 (UTC), wrote in : I think it's unfortunate that it uses the O-200 engine. IIRC, the Cont O-200 has a TBO of 1,800 hours. Have you checked the TBO on the Rotax? 912ULS - 1500 hours |
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"Phil" wrote On the plus side, I think it looks great. Although I think it would look better without those wing struts. Low-wing planes have been flying without struts for years. Why is it that high-wing planes still use them? They cause drag and they spoil the view. Because you can make the wing structure and mounting lighter. I gotta wonder though; why is the dang thing so heavy? It is probably at least 75 pounds heavier than others of the class. It is going to make full tanks with two people impossible to do and still be legal, (and no luggage) unless they are really lightweights. I will go out on a limb and say that Cessna had better put it on a diet, or it will not sell as well as they would like. -- Jim in NC |
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Cessna's new LSA: "Skycatcher"
"Scott Skylane" wrote Don't knock the O-200 quite so fast. The 162 is getting the "D" model engine, the Type Spec of which hasn't even been issued, yet. I would be surprised if Continental doesn't incorporate some improvements to the cylinder design. As a rugged, easy-to-maintain light aircraft powerplant, I personally think they made a good choice. I agree, most completely! The fact that it has the O-200 would make me buy it, rather than the Rotax powered LSA's. Anyone know what a weight comparison would be for a firewall forward installation of a 200 vs. a 912? -- Jim in NC |
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Cessna's new LSA: "Skycatcher"
: Don't knock the O-200 quite so fast. The 162 is getting the "D" model
: engine, the Type Spec of which hasn't even been issued, yet. I would be : surprised if Continental doesn't incorporate some improvements to the : cylinder design. As a rugged, easy-to-maintain light aircraft : powerplant, I personally think they made a good choice. I'm not "knocking" it so much as I lament a brand new aircraft not using new technology. TBO doesn't take into account cylinder overhauls, which are routinely required on old-school air-cooled aircraft engines. I'm been plagued with sticking valves on my O-360 since I got my Cherokee and taking a step *backwards* from that (WRT cooling, compression ratio, etc) seems silly. If the "D" models has the improvements you suggest, then it's a good compromise. If not, it's a rather disappointing choice. Perhaps with 110 HP it'd go faster than allowed in a LSA? -Cory -- ************************************************** *********************** * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * ************************************************** *********************** |
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Cessna's new LSA: "Skycatcher"
On 2007-07-23 07:31:11 -0700, Phil said:
On Jul 23, 4:00 am, Thomas Borchert wrote: Phil, I'm sorry, but SkyCatcher?? I think they should have just stuck with Cessna 162 and left it at that. You seem to forget that the other Cessnas all have silly names, too. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) No, I knew that. But in silliness, this one goes to eleven. It sounds like a name an eight year old would pick for the airplane he just made out of scrap wood. I don't think it is as bad as 'Stationair.' Sounds like something slow and ugly, which it is, but they didn't need to call it that . :-) -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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