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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
Here's a case of national proportions to watch: FAA CHALLENGES SANTA MONICA JET BAN (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#197507) Despite repeated warnings from the FAA that it has no intention of letting Santa Monica get away with it, the city council there has effectively shortened the single runway at Santa Monica Airport by declaring stretches of pavement at each end as runway safety areas (RSAs). That will effectively shorten the runway to the point where Category C (approach speed of greater than 120 knots) and larger aircraft won't be able to use the runway. According to the city, that will cut 9,000 operations a year at the airport. Now, SMO doesn't have RSAs and the FAA normally encourages and even mandates (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache...&client=safari) RSAs at other airports but there's plenty of wiggle room in determining how much safety is practical. |
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FAA CHALLENGES SANTA MONICA JET BAN
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#197507) Let's hope the FAA has grown longer fangs since King Daley dusted them in Chicago. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
On Apr 2, 1:41*am, Larry Dighera wrote:
Here's a case of national proportions to watch: * * FAA CHALLENGES SANTA MONICA JET BAN I just can't imagine that this will stand. Most of the planes coming and going at SMO are jets. SMO is the airport used by most of the Hollywood types. I've been to the FBO there when they've had jets waiting in line just to enter the FBO ramp. -Robert |
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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
Larry Dighera writes:
Despite repeated warnings from the FAA that it has no intention of letting Santa Monica get away with it ... Yeah, the FAA sure showed the mayor of Chicago who's boss, didn't it? |
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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
[Default] On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 08:54:33 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote: I just can't imagine that this will stand. While I would suppose the FAA has final authority over how airports are designed, the city's action does seem to put FAA in an awkward position of removing "safety enhancements." I know the FAA is supposed to conduct annual airport audits. Presumably, if issues are discovered, the airport management/owner(s) are required to correct them, or face fines or other action. Have you any idea of the current state of jet operations at KSMO? Are the jets using the safety areas for operations (thus ignoring the city's unauthorized changes), or are jets going elsewhere? |
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[Default] On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:40:46 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Larry Dighera writes: Despite repeated warnings from the FAA that it has no intention of letting Santa Monica get away with it ... Yeah, the FAA sure showed the mayor of Chicago who's boss, didn't it? It would seem that the "fix was in" in that case, although FAA did impose the maximum fines authorized at the time. |
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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Larry Dighera writes: Despite repeated warnings from the FAA that it has no intention of letting Santa Monica get away with it ... Yeah, the FAA sure showed the mayor of Chicago who's boss, didn't it? You don't fly snd you have no idea of what you're talking about. Bertie |
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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Larry Dighera writes: Despite repeated warnings from the FAA that it has no intention of letting Santa Monica get away with it ... Yeah, the FAA sure showed the mayor of Chicago who's boss, didn't it? Mixi, you are one dumb mother ****er. You are just a waste of good oxygen. |
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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
Larry Dighera wrote:
FAA CHALLENGES SANTA MONICA JET BAN (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#197507) Despite repeated warnings from the FAA that it has no intention of letting Santa Monica get away with it, the city council there has effectively shortened the single runway at Santa Monica Airport by declaring stretches of pavement at each end as runway safety areas (RSAs). That will effectively shorten the runway to the point where Category C (approach speed of greater than 120 knots) and larger aircraft won't be able to use the runway. If you go look at the local paper (it takes a while to load, as they're back in the 20th century and put a PDF of the thing on their website) you'll note a couple interesting things, including a number of runway overrun accidents in recent years. And after the jump (when the story's continued to page 17) the aerial photo shows the city snuggled right up around the landing strip, a clear example of bad metro development. http://www.smdp.com/site/archives/032908.pdf The story tells of a proposal to buy up homes to give a little safety room around the airport, but a lot of homeowners resist the idea, which would be pretty spendy (California real estate -- ya THINK?!) and kind of after the fact. We need more property manager expertise in today's airport managers. |
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Santa Monica Airport Bans Jet Traffic
In article Larry Dighera writes:
Here's a case of national proportions to watch: FAA CHALLENGES SANTA MONICA JET BAN Well, Santa Monica lost about 30 years ago. I am sure they have been trying to figure a way to ban jets ever since then. There used to be a huge "NO JETS" on the sloping ground between Bundy Drive and the approach end of runway 21. Hopefully the FAA will insist that the city return money used on airport improvements, or some similar action to convince the city of the error of its ways. Alan |
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