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Old July 7th 03, 05:57 AM
Charles Talleyrand
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As I understand it, a Cirrus has a much more roomy cabin, 100 lbs higher useful load, no retractable landing gear to maintain, is 10
kts slower, and costs $100,000 less. Why would anyone buy a Mooney?

Heck, a new Cirrus costs less than a recently used Mooney. Who here would pick a two year old Mooney over a brand new Cirrus?

Mooney puts out a comparision worksheet at http://www.mooney.com/PDFS/ovationcomparison.pdf. I note they don't list cabin
dimentions.

-Curious

P.S. Sorry this sounds so much like a troll. But unless you hate fiberglass it seems an easy decision.


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Old July 7th 03, 10:00 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Charles,

Why would anyone buy a Mooney?


Pilot inertia. Strangely, new is bad in this community. If you compare
sales numbers, though, I would guess that Cirrus sells a lot more
airplanes than Mooney does, so maybe (next to) nobody does buy Mooneys.

Two things you forgot to mention:

- Cirrus is a much healthier company than Mooney.
- You might have to wait longer for the Cirrus.

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Old July 7th 03, 11:07 AM
Ben Jackson
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In article ,
Charles Talleyrand wrote:
As I understand it, a Cirrus has a much more roomy cabin, 100 lbs higher
useful load, no retractable landing gear to maintain, is 10
kts slower, and costs $100,000 less. Why would anyone buy a Mooney?


Have you looked at their sales numbers? They're only moving a handful
of planes. So few that you could grab the list and call everyone who
bought a new Mooney in the last year and ask them why during your lunch
hour.

Even going back 10+ years their volume has been very low with no Cirrus
(or at the time, even Cessna!) to compete with. Looking at a table of
Mooney sales by year a while ago made me wonder if we'll ever see a new
model of light single that sells 1000 airframes over its lifetime.

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Old July 7th 03, 09:07 PM
gwengler
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Thomas Borchert wrote in message ...

Pilot inertia. Strangely, new is bad in this community.


I don't recall anyone saying "new is bad" in this newsgroup or among
my pilot friends; however, some say "old is bad" which would be just
as unfounded. Just to make a point: The Cirrus is an excellent
airplane! It may not fit some pilots' requirements or typical mission
profiles. That doesn't make all other existing designs "bad".

Gerd
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Old July 8th 03, 01:42 AM
Dan Luke
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"Charles Talleyrand" wrote:
Why would anyone buy a Mooney?

Heck, a new Cirrus costs less than a recently used Mooney.
Who here would pick a two year old Mooney over a brand new Cirrus?


Not many would. Those who would may like the better speed and the
availability of TKS anti-icing gear. Some people don't like side sticks - I
don't.

Nevertheless, Cirrus must be hurting Mooney's sales severely. Anyone
interested in a pool on how long Mooney's gonna last?
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Old July 8th 03, 11:24 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Dan,

Anyone
interested in a pool on how long Mooney's gonna last?


I don't know if what they're in right now could be described as
lasting. Seems to me they're in and out of bankruptcy.

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Old July 8th 03, 11:35 PM
James Blakely
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Doesn't Cirrus have at present a 5,000 hour airframe limit? Yeah, I know
that is supposed to change, but what if it doesn't?


"Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message
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As I understand it, a Cirrus has a much more roomy cabin, 100 lbs higher

useful load, no retractable landing gear to maintain, is 10
kts slower, and costs $100,000 less. Why would anyone buy a Mooney?

Heck, a new Cirrus costs less than a recently used Mooney. Who here would

pick a two year old Mooney over a brand new Cirrus?

Mooney puts out a comparision worksheet at

http://www.mooney.com/PDFS/ovationcomparison.pdf. I note they don't list
cabin
dimentions.

-Curious

P.S. Sorry this sounds so much like a troll. But unless you hate

fiberglass it seems an easy decision.




 




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