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"Ed Majden" wrote in message ... Get off of Art's back. Nobody is on Art's back. He has definitely earned the right to his opinions as a WWII active duty vet. Everyone has a right to his opinion, it does not have to be earned. How many of you did the same?????? WWII is a long time ago and all these stories will soon be missed and lost. Art has said things that are demonstrably untrue, his stories are thus unreliable. |
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"Ed Majden" wrote in message ... in article et, Steven P. McNicoll at wrote on 8/30/04 13:31: "Kyle Boatright" wrote in message ... I added Art to the wastebin a couple of months ago. He has a lot to offer the group as an ex-WWII aircrew, but his signal to noise ratio is way outta whack. Even his stuff about WWII B-26 ops is of little value as his memory is now so poor he can't separate fact from fantasy. Get off of Art's back. He has definitely earned the right to his opinions as a WWII active duty vet. He has not earned the right to putting out false "facts", however. Nor, IMO, has he "earned" any right to defame the efforts of the millions of other vets who served during WWII, and afterwards, who performed duties other than those exact ones that he supposedly performed. How many of you did the same?????? A lot of us have served; most of us were not even born when WWII was fought. Most of us hold WWII vets in high regard--but that does not mean that every WWII vet gets a "free ride" in terms of being allowed to lie, distort, libel other veterans, etc. All of which Art has been proven to do. WWII is a long time ago and all these stories will soon be missed and lost. Only the true ones. But stories like, "We NEVER missed our target" (yeah, right--unfortunately, the available records of the day don't bear that one out), "The Guard was sitting at home when I went off to win the war" (nope again--the Guard had been mobilized in its entirety some three years or so before Art graduated from freakin' high school), "I was in the trenches during the Ardennes...er, no, I was at 10,000 feet above those battles...", etc., serve no purpose other than to perpetrate further historical inaccuracy. Ed retired RCAF/CAF with 1 Air Div Europe & NORAD fighter bases. But in Art's book, you did not do squat; he has gone on record as indicating that the Cold War vets are mere dirt suitable only to be scraped from his shoes. Brooks |
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Subject: Why doesn't Art think?
From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/1/2004 7:17 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: t "Ed Majden" wrote in message ... Get off of Art's back. Nobody is on Art's back. He has definitely earned the right to his opinions as a WWII active duty vet. Everyone has a right to his opinion, it does not have to be earned. How many of you did the same?????? WWII is a long time ago and all these stories will soon be missed and lost. Art has said things that are demonstrably untrue, his stories are thus unreliable. How would you know wannabee? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Why doesn't Art think? From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/1/2004 7:17 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: t "Ed Majden" wrote in message ... Get off of Art's back. Nobody is on Art's back. He has definitely earned the right to his opinions as a WWII active duty vet. Everyone has a right to his opinion, it does not have to be earned. How many of you did the same?????? WWII is a long time ago and all these stories will soon be missed and lost. Art has said things that are demonstrably untrue, his stories are thus unreliable. How would you know wannabee? Art, for the last time...nobody around here has *any* desire to be like you, since that would require a frontal lobotomy gone wrong, massive doses of mind-numbing drugs, and psychiatric treatment to remove one's sense of conscience. So the "wannabe" stuff is just fantasizing on your part. Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... How would you know Because I've demonstrated them to be untrue. |
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in article , Tank Fixer at
wrote on 9/1/04 10:45: He certainly has the right to his opinions. But lately Art isn't talking about WW2 but about his opinons of how great Clinton was and how great Kerry would be as president.. I guess you then must disagree with 50% of your own countrymen. Some think President Bush stole the election so this number may in fact be more than 50%. Note, I treat President Bush with great respect because of the office he holds. I may disagree with some of his ideas however. Unlike some of you that seem to have tunnel vision! Ed |
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Art bellowed:
How would you know wannabee? Art don't you know any other words to use? For a college student your vocabulary is limited lately. According to you everyone not an aircrew member in the 344BG, 494BS in the ETO during WWII is a "wannabee" (with the possible favorable comments that you have given to airborne troopers). How about the 20th Maine at Gettysburg? No wait we can't mention them, they were Militia, aka National Guard, therfore useless according to your comments. How about the 45th Division in Italy or Korea? No wait again, useless National Guard! We know your feelings about groundcrew members and in the past week you have called Bufdrvr an "Asshole" and told other people to go screw themselves. Not appropriate behavior for an officer, but wait you never got higher than Flight Officer, aka Warrant Officer, therefore you don't have to follow any rules of decency. Go the hell back to school! Rick Clark |
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"Ed Majden" wrote in message ... I guess you then must disagree with 50% of your own countrymen. Some think President Bush stole the election so this number may in fact be more than 50%. Actually, few think Bush stole the election, and nobody that understands how the president is elected thinks so. |
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