Is an IPC a substitute for 6 approaches?

Yea, the IPC can be done in less time than doing 6 in 6 for currency
assuming a current pilot. I almost always do IPCs myself just because
it takes so damn long to get in 6 approachs at busy airports. The
requirements of the IPC are very strickly called out in the IFR PTS. It
is not open to the latitude that a BFR is.

-Robert, CFII

Ben Jackson wrote:
The way I read 61.57(d) (the requirement for an IPC), it's just an extra
requirement that kicks in under certain circumstances. It's not a subpart
of 61.57(c) (6 approaches etc in 6 months), and (c) does not have any
exceptions related to (d).

So if an IPC is essentially a checkride, it could be done by a proficient
pilot with (say) 3 approaches. Would that pilot be legal for IFR if he
had gone into the IPC needing it (no approaches within 6 months)?

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD

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On 24 Aug 2006 13:22:36 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

Yea, the IPC can be done in less time than doing 6 in 6 for currency
assuming a current pilot. I almost always do IPCs myself just because
it takes so damn long to get in 6 approachs at busy airports. The
requirements of the IPC are very strickly called out in the IFR PTS. It
is not open to the latitude that a BFR is.

-Robert, CFII

I also like to think that an occasional IPC may help to uncover any
bad habits I might have developed. A pilot can rely on 6 in 6 to stay
continuously current for years without ever seeing a CFII. A Flight
Review administered by a CF-single-I may not give the same scrutiny to
instrument skills as an IPC while also working on stalls and short
landings. Just flying 6 approaches doesn't teach much if it's always
the same approach. An IPC offers a chance to review all those skills.

Now another question: Can the IPC be used as part of a Wings phase?

RK Henry

RK Henry wrote:
On 24 Aug 2006 13:22:36 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:
Now another question: Can the IPC be used as part of a Wings phase?

For Land Wings it would certainly count as the 1 hour required for
instrument training. It wouldn't do you any good for Sea Wings.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
ups.com:

For Land Wings it would certainly count as the 1 hour required for
instrument training. It wouldn't do you any good for Sea Wings.

AC61-91H(7)(b) shows a one hour requirement of instrument instruction
under certain circumstances, see "Note".

--

John Godwin wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
ups.com:

For Land Wings it would certainly count as the 1 hour required for
instrument training. It wouldn't do you any good for Sea Wings.

AC61-91H(7)(b) shows a one hour requirement of instrument instruction
under certain circumstances, see "Note".

Hi John. My reading of that is just that a non-instrument rated pilot
does not need to shoot approaches, but still needs to do 1 hour of
"basic instrument training" (their words).
However, for SeaWings there is no instrument requirement at all (I just
did my Seawings yesterday)...


b. Seaplanes and Amphibians.
(1) One hour of flight training in a seaplane or amphibian
to include a demonstration by the applicant of a complete
seaplane or amphibian passenger safety briefing, a weight
and balance computation and interpretation for the actual
flight, a review and evaluation of current and forecast
weather, and on-the-water training in docking, beaching
and anchoring, and maneuvering in confined areas.
(2) One hour of flight training in a seaplane or amphibian
to include landing area assessment, safe approaches and
departures, takeoffs, and landings, including crosswind,
rough water, and glassy water techniques. (Conditions
may be simulated.)
(3) One hour of flight training in a seaplane or amphibian
to include power-on and power-offstalls in various configurations with
minimum altitude loss,
power-off emergency landings, step taxi, step turns, rapid
decelerations from the step, and emergency procedures.
In addition to the 1 hour of flight time (not included in the 1
hour), there must be a discussion of stall avoidance and
prevention techniques,

-Robert

RK Henry wrote:

Now another question: Can the IPC be used as part of a Wings phase?

RK Henry

Absoluely, and mine usually do. It's just a pretty intense wings flight
for that portion of wings.

Now another question: Can the IPC be used as part of a Wings phase?

One of the parts of a wings phase is one hour of instrument instruction.
If the IPC takes an hour or more, then it counts.

Jose
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