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Old January 8th 05, 09:37 PM
A Lieberman
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:32:53 GMT, Colin W Kingsbury wrote:

There is no way visibility goes from adequate VFR to low IMC in less than
sixty seconds. I'm calling bull**** on this.


Colin,

Having lived in the area for 4 years before I moved to MS, it does happen.

I have seen the fog rolling in no time flat due to warm frontal passages.

Please keep in mind the the ground had a 12 to 18 inch snow pack, and with
warm air advecting into the area, you get some incredible fog formations in
the North Central Ohio area with this combination of weather.

The closest reporting airport is MFD (Mansfield), and the second closest
airport is MNN (Marion). I have seen it raining at both airports and
snowing at 4I9. The distance from each airport is rather small for such
diverse weather conditions.

I personally thought that 4 mile viz and snow cover is not condusive of any
sight seeing anyway, thus I would have question the decision to launch FOR
SIGHT SEEING PURPOSES. There would have been no visible horizon with that
kind of visibility and snow cover once you left pattern altitude.

But, since I wasn't there, Monday night quarterbacking is only speculative.

Allen
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Old January 26th 05, 04:39 PM
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My condolences to family and friends of the three who lost their lives.

Many years ago I was about to run into comparable trouble at Rotterdam
Airport: 8 km visibility and temp well above dewpoint at take-off.
Nevertheless, when flying to the East (away from the shore) at 1000 ft I
met severe haze, had scarcely any horizon, fortunately no fogging up!
Within 10 minutes I was back at the airport. So far my experience with
poor visibility coming up in a whiff.

I cannot overestimate how important it is to do at least one IF lesson
at the earlierst useful point in training.

Different subject:
A cross-probing on "wrong stuff" and "gene hudson" in Google yielded the
following:

http://www.misc-transport.com/trucki...ed_220951.html

It may be of some use.

Best regards: Johan E. Mebius (former private pilot)


Geoffrey Barnes wrote:

I wrote an article about this that was published in Plane and Pilot ,
called "The Wrong Stuff." It is available to view on my website at
www.genehudson.com if you care to read more about this stuff.



Couldn't find the article there. I found where it was listed with other
articles, and many of those other articles are clickable links which take
you into their content, but "The Wrong Stuff" is not clickable.


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