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Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam
To put it in perspective, here are 9 ways Bush got favored treatment in the
service due to his political connections (he was then son of a Congressman and grandson of a former Senator): 1) He got into the Guard by pulling strings, avoiding the year and a half waiting list; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#got in 2) He took a 2-month vacation in Florida after just 8 weeks, (1 of 3 leaves), to work on a political campaign; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#firstleave 3) Bush skipped Officer Candidate School and got a special commission as a 2nd Lieutenant, without qualifications; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#2ndLt 4) He was assigned to a safe plane (being phased out of active service), the F-102 ; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#f102 5) During flight school, he was flown on a government jet to Washington for a date with President Nixon's daughter Tricia ; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#date 6) Bush got an illegal transfer (later overruled) to a base with no work; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#moreleave 7) He simply didn't show up for a YEAR, AWOL with no penalty; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#AWOL 8) George W. skipped all his medical exams after they started drug tests, and was removed from flight status; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#drugtest 9) He ended his service 10 months early to go to Harvard Business School; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#discharge To put it in perspective, here are 9 ways Bush got favored treatment in the service due to his political connections (he was then son of a Congressman and grandson of a former Senator): 1) He got into the Guard by pulling strings, avoiding the year and a half waiting list; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#got in 2) He took a 2-month vacation in Florida after just 8 weeks, (1 of 3 leaves), to work on a political campaign; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#firstleave 3) Bush skipped Officer Candidate School and got a special commission as a 2nd Lieutenant, without qualifications; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#2ndLt 4) He was assigned to a safe plane (being phased out of active service), the F-102 ; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#f102 5) During flight school, he was flown on a government jet to Washington for a date with President Nixon's daughter Tricia ; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#date 6) Bush got an illegal transfer (later overruled) to a base with no work; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#moreleave 7) He simply didn't show up for a YEAR, AWOL with no penalty; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#AWOL 8) George W. skipped all his medical exams after they started drug tests, and was removed from flight status; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#drugtest 9) He ended his service 10 months early to go to Harvard Business School; http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#discharge I got a link not found message. Someone may have hacked the site. That's what they've done to michaelmoore.com also. But good work. Walt |
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I believe that is the first time I have heard of the F-102 as a "safe
aircraft"! Were they really? v/r Gordon |
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They were so "safe" that the design was redesigned into the F106 to fix all
the problems. MikeT |
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"miket6065" wrote in
om: They were so "safe" that the design was redesigned into the F106 to fix all the problems. Safety wasn't the problem. Drag was. The F-102 was supposed to be a supersonic aircraft but wasn't good for much beyond Mach 1. Area ruling and an increase in power gave us the F-106, easily capable of Mach 2. IBM __________________________________________________ _____________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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"Ian MacLure" wrote in message ... Safety wasn't the problem. Drag was. The F-102 was supposed to be a supersonic aircraft but wasn't good for much beyond Mach 1. That would make it a supersonic aircraft. Area ruling and an increase in power gave us the F-106, easily capable of Mach 2. The F-102A was area ruled. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
nk.net: "Ian MacLure" wrote in message ... Safety wasn't the problem. Drag was. The F-102 was supposed to be a supersonic aircraft but wasn't good for much beyond Mach 1. That would make it a supersonic aircraft. Yes strictly speaking I suppose it would however just barely. Mach 1.3 or so? Area ruling and an increase in power gave us the F-106, easily capable of Mach 2. The F-102A was area ruled. Seems I had the development history confabulated with the operational versions. Couldn't find the reference that talked the development issues which (IIRC) included area ruling to deal with unexpectedly high drag IBM __________________________________________________ _____________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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I believe that is the first time I have heard of the F-102 as a "safe aircraft"! Were they really? As Ed Rasimus has said: "Every time you kick the tires and light the fire in a single-engine, single-seat Century Series jet, it can kill you--all by itself without help from an enemy." www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm There is a page by Walt BJ (based on his posts on this newsgroup) at http://www.warbirdforum.com/waltbj.htm all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org |
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Subject: Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam
From: Cub Driver Date: 7/9/2004 2:40 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: I believe that is the first time I have heard of the F-102 as a "safe aircraft"! Were they really? As Ed Rasimus has said: "Every time you kick the tires and light the fire in a single-engine, single-seat Century Series jet, it can kill you--all by itself without help from an enemy." Yeah right. It's the kicking the tires that will get you every time. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam
From: (ArtKramr) Date: 7/9/2004 10:13 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Subject: Bush Flew Fighter Jets During Vietnam From: Cub Driver Date: 7/9/2004 2:40 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: I believe that is the first time I have heard of the F-102 as a "safe aircraft"! Were they really? As Ed Rasimus has said: "Every time you kick the tires and light the fire in a single-engine, single-seat Century Series jet, it can kill you--all by itself without help from an enemy." Ya know I really don't know what all the fuss was about here. I graduated from college in 1968 in Arizona. I had always wanted to fly jets so from time to time I applied for the AF Reserves and ANG prior to graduation and once they found I was physically and mentally qualified to go to flight school, as well as an engineer, I was informed they all had immediate vacancies. Ultimately I went through AFROTC and went on to learn how to fly. Probably 5% or so of my graduating class were ANG or AFR - I ended up taking an F-4. Slots coming down to graduates included ADC F101s among other non SEA assignments. I had and have no political pull whatever and I could have just as easily taken an ANG/AFR slot prior to my college graduation so I don't feel Bush hard to try very hard to get an F-102. Even after I finished F-4 in 69 school several of us in my class ended up in northern Japan instead of SEA including one guy who later became a backseat ace after getting a SEA tour in 1972.. So please stop reading more into this than there probably was. Don't just assume that because the guy got an ANG fighter slot and ddn't go to SEA, he only did so because of his connections. Others were in the same boat through no choice of their own. |
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