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Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20



 
 
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Old October 11th 06, 09:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
A. Sinan Unur
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Default Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20

CNN is reporting that the pilot was a Yankee's pitcher: Lidle. He
apparently got his license only 7 months ago. Bragged about how safe his
plane was. I have a feeling this is similar to JFK junior's case of not
knowing one's limitations.

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Old October 11th 06, 09:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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A. Sinan Unur wrote:
CNN is reporting that the pilot was a Yankee's pitcher: Lidle. He
apparently got his license only 7 months ago. Bragged about how safe his
plane was. I have a feeling this is similar to JFK junior's case of not
knowing one's limitations.



I talked with my aunt who also lives on the east side of Manhattan and she said
it's been a crappy day up there... in fact, while I was talking to her it
started raining.



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Old October 11th 06, 10:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary Drescher
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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I talked with my aunt who also lives on the east side of Manhattan and she
said it's been a crappy day up there... in fact, while I was talking to
her it started raining.


CNN reports 8-mile visibility but low ceiling (1800') at the time of the
crash. (Most of CNN's coverage has been quite good; they're getting
commentary from their journalist Miles O'Brien, who's a pilot. They also
found a pilot eyewitness on the ground who provided a cogent account.)

--Gary


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Old October 12th 06, 12:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tom[_1_]
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NY Times had this inteactive graphic today.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtm...H_GRAPHIC.html

Tom



Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
A. Sinan Unur wrote:
CNN is reporting that the pilot was a Yankee's pitcher: Lidle. He
apparently got his license only 7 months ago. Bragged about how safe his
plane was. I have a feeling this is similar to JFK junior's case of not
knowing one's limitations.



I talked with my aunt who also lives on the east side of Manhattan and she said
it's been a crappy day up there... in fact, while I was talking to her it
started raining.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com


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Old October 12th 06, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:43:12 -0700, Tom wrote:

NY Times had this inteactive graphic today.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtm...H_GRAPHIC.html

Tom


This fits with what I saw on the passur site. It was as if he'd gone too
far, and turned to stay under the class B (and go back down the river).

BTW, someone mentioned to me that the wind at the time was brisk and out
of the east. That could have widened the turn beyond expectation.

- Andrew



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Old October 13th 06, 01:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:43:12 -0700, Tom wrote:

NY Times had this inteactive graphic today.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtm...H_GRAPHIC.html

Tom


This fits with what I saw on the passur site. It was as if he'd gone too
far, and turned to stay under the class B (and go back down the river).


There is now a clip of this happening (at least of things
happening at this time) at LiveATC. The clip is from LGA tower, and
them explaining to pilots what is going on, or that they are finding
out. Rather powerful..

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Old October 11th 06, 10:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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He busted Class B too.

-cd

"A. Sinan Unur" wrote in message
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CNN is reporting that the pilot was a Yankee's pitcher: Lidle. He
apparently got his license only 7 months ago. Bragged about how safe his
plane was. I have a feeling this is similar to JFK junior's case of not
knowing one's limitations.

Sinan
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Old October 11th 06, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary Drescher
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"City Dweller" wrote in message
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He busted Class B too.


What makes you say so? The crash site is abeam FDR Island, adjacent to part
of the East River VFR corridor. (Or do you just mean that he was slightly
inland at the moment of the crash?) And is it known yet if he might have had
a Class B clearance?

--Gary

-cd

"A. Sinan Unur" wrote in message
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CNN is reporting that the pilot was a Yankee's pitcher: Lidle. He
apparently got his license only 7 months ago. Bragged about how safe his
plane was. I have a feeling this is similar to JFK junior's case of not
knowing one's limitations.

Sinan
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Old October 11th 06, 10:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
City Dweller[_1_]
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A pilot correspondent at CNN said that (can't remember his name).

-- cd


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"City Dweller" wrote in message
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He busted Class B too.


What makes you say so? The crash site is abeam FDR Island, adjacent to
part of the East River VFR corridor. (Or do you just mean that he was
slightly inland at the moment of the crash?) And is it known yet if he
might have had a Class B clearance?

--Gary

-cd

"A. Sinan Unur" wrote in message
...
CNN is reporting that the pilot was a Yankee's pitcher: Lidle. He
apparently got his license only 7 months ago. Bragged about how safe his
plane was. I have a feeling this is similar to JFK junior's case of not
knowing one's limitations.

Sinan
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Old October 11th 06, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Gardner
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I heard two "experts" commenting on the crash. One went on and on about how
airflow over the wing creates a vacuum which lifts the airplane, and if it
banked suddenly the vacuum would disappear. He did talk about Class B,
almost as though he knew what he was talking about. The second guy raged on
about how the plane was over the river but he knew that this was just an
accident waiting to happen and that all GA airplanes should file flight
plans.

Bob Gardner

"City Dweller" wrote in message
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A pilot correspondent at CNN said that (can't remember his name).

-- cd


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
"City Dweller" wrote in message
...
He busted Class B too.


What makes you say so? The crash site is abeam FDR Island, adjacent to
part of the East River VFR corridor. (Or do you just mean that he was
slightly inland at the moment of the crash?) And is it known yet if he
might have had a Class B clearance?

--Gary

-cd

"A. Sinan Unur" wrote in message
...
CNN is reporting that the pilot was a Yankee's pitcher: Lidle. He
apparently got his license only 7 months ago. Bragged about how safe
his
plane was. I have a feeling this is similar to JFK junior's case of not
knowing one's limitations.

Sinan
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