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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
"Scott" wrote in message .. . T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56 wrote: http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676 Screw him (Randy Walker). Experimentals are issued airworthiness certificates from the FAA just as are certified aircraft. If they restrict experimentals from using the "public use" airports, they can (and should) forfeit Ferderal funding. Has a certified airplane ever crashed and killed an innocent on the ground? Nuff said. That is exactly what the developers want. Tom C |
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In article , "Tom C" *
wrote: [snip] All this guy needed was an excuse. Now he has a Velocity into one house and a certified twin into another. It's going to get ugly. It sounds like it was already very very ugly before the latest accident. :-( -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:40:01 -0700, yaeedyaeegiisss
wrote: wrote: In rec.aviation.owning Mxsmanic wrote: My impression is that many aircraft are called experimental in order to get around certain troublesome regulations. And your "impression" is wrong. Exactly so. All experimental means is that the manufacturer, whoever that may be, didn't go through the process to certify the aircraft in one of the other catagories with the FAA. Yep. Newly developed aircraft that haven't yet been put into production, (hint: 777 Freighter, 787, other new types and derivatives) but are about to enter flight test, all fly as experimental aircraft during flight test. And only the wildly delusional and stupid believe that a company like, say, Boeing, is trying to "get around certain troublesome regulations." This is true for other aircraft manufacturers as well, particularly in the USA. Even completely certificated types (172/182) with gear (a-la the G1000 prototypes where the installed equipment doesn't meet the list on the god-knows-how-old TC) are splapped with the experimental label until the amended TC process is completed. |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:00:54 -0400, Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
"hummingbird" wrote in message .. . Fokken good rant, D00d Thanks. Usenet history was made right here, Cappie! -- Tel (239) 732-8660 Toll Free 1-888-732-8660 Christoph A. Zierhut, Real Estate Broker ABR® Motto: "Der Furher Was Right About De Jew" |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:31:17 -0700, Tom C wrote:
Now you have this guy who hates GA and the clueless people who were sold a bill of goods by developers that encroached on an airport that's been there since WW II and we have one melting ball of wax. In another thread I was reading about the hazards of airparks. The discussion were adamant about that not being the case yet here I have this opinion stated three or four times in this thread. Care to comment? |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:33:55 -0700, Tom C wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message .. . T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56 wrote: http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676 Screw him (Randy Walker). Experimentals are issued airworthiness certificates from the FAA just as are certified aircraft. If they restrict experimentals from using the "public use" airports, they can (and should) forfeit Ferderal funding. Has a certified airplane ever crashed and killed an innocent on the ground? Nuff said. That is exactly what the developers want. Tom C Tom, is your point that RE developers did not use the proximity to the airport as a selling point? |
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:01:40 -0400, Bob F. wrote:
"Gezellig" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:19:04 +0000, Scott wrote: BT wrote: Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas airport. A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to people on the ground. BT "T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in message ... http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676 Was that an "experimental" Navajo? Didn't think so. Looks like certified airplanes crash too. The pilot got out, crawled on top, and was rescued about 20 metres offshore by 3 drunk carpenters. Who used a mini-surf board. On the way to shore, the pilot, over 70 said "Man, I think I had a stroke or something". So let's outlaw old pilots...in Navahos...near drunk carpenters. So I have to ask? How many "strokes" did it take for him to get to shore? :-) That was painful. lol He was blind, too, by the stroke....God I hope so. |
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:09:05 -0400, Ernest Christley wrote:
Gezellig wrote: The pilot got out, crawled on top, and was rescued about 20 metres offshore by 3 drunk carpenters. Who used a mini-surf board. On the way to shore, the pilot, over 70 said "Man, I think I had a stroke or something". So let's outlaw old pilots...in Navahos...near drunk carpenters. Ummm? I believe they have (it's called a 'medical' in the vernacular). He was 72 and had his clearance. Want to make a cutoff year for PPL? |
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Gezellig wrote: Tom, is your point that RE developers did not use the proximity to the airport as a selling point? A search for "Randy Walker" on the Las Vegas SUN website will bring up 209 articles. Scroll through them and you will find many that refer to law suits related to land deals involving airport land sold to developers. |
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"Gezellig" wrote in message ... On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:31:17 -0700, Tom C wrote: Now you have this guy who hates GA and the clueless people who were sold a bill of goods by developers that encroached on an airport that's been there since WW II and we have one melting ball of wax. In another thread I was reading about the hazards of airparks. The discussion were adamant about that not being the case yet here I have this opinion stated three or four times in this thread. Care to comment? This isn't an airpark. This has been an established airport since the 1940's.Up until the big Vegas boom, this county owned facility was surrounded by nothing but desert. Like so many other growing towns (like what has happened in CA and Long Island NY), the soccer moms and urban drones decided that all that flat land around the airport to be prime home sites. The built up all around it including runway ends. Now there are shouts about noise and "danger." These same dangers have been there since the 1940's when the Las Vegas Gunnery School was initiated during the war. This airport never has been an airpark. It has always been an airport designed for heavy training and GA traffic. The land around it should never have been used for homes. If you go to http://www.skyvector.com and type in VGT you will see the last vestiges of open area around the airport. You will also see A-481. This is a designated high performance take off area for KLSV (Nellis AFB). The yellow area under it wasn't there 15 years ago. This is also true for the yellow area around VGT. The city exploded to the north and surrounded the airport. Another good Google search is Las Vegas pig farm. Example: http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../12470973.html http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../19622083.html http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2006...rowth-farm.htm Bottom line greedy developers and people who don't do their homework are now razing a stink. GA is going to pay for it - as usual. Tom C |
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